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Old 11-16-2014, 05:37 PM   #11
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Don't loose sight of your gross combined vehicle weight rating. by loading more into your trailer and less into your truck you still have to consider what the gross combined weight will be. If you exceed the gross combined vehicle weight rating, you're over weight.
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Old 11-16-2014, 05:42 PM   #12
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Don't loose sight of your gross combined vehicle weight rating. by loading more into your trailer and less into your truck you still have to consider what the gross combined weight will be. If you exceed the gross combined vehicle weight rating, you're over weight.
My max GCWR is 17,100 lbs. With a curb weight on my truck of 5800lbs approx... That leaves 11,300lbs for trailer and cargo.

Considering the trailer will weigh around 8000-8500 loaded I should be well under the GCWR with enough room to shoot a moose and bring him home too.
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Check your GCWR


TV GVWR + TT or 5er GVWR = GCWR you can not be over
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:39 PM   #14
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Towing 29QBH with F-150 Ecoboost HD Max Tow

family of 6? Take your weight as a family and subtract that from your payload...then consider your tongue weight with hitch and anything in the bed of the truck (bikes, firewood, chairs, tools, etc, etc)..go to a cat scale with all the above and see what your weight is. IMO you will be way over payload with a family of 6 (and everything you will take in the truck and the trailer to appease everyone). There is a reason there are 3/4 and 1T trucks...use the right tool for the job imo

I have first hand experience..had a 2013 ram 1500...wanted a 28dsbh....with family, etc on board, I would have been way, way over on payload....I sold it and ordered a 1T diesel as I was not comfortable with the weights). Not to mention I could really feel a 4000lb trailer behind me, let alone a 8k lb trailer. The power was fine, but the P tires and soft suspension wasnt good at all. Good luck

PS- if your F150 was one of the newer (and rare unless ordered) ones with close to 2k payload and the EB engine, I would say you would be good to go
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7650 + 9250 = 16,900. The GCWR = 17,100. So I am under but never intend on having this thing loaded to it's GVWR of 9250lbs.
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My max GCWR is 17,100 lbs. With a curb weight on my truck of 5800lbs approx... That leaves 11,300lbs for trailer and cargo.

Considering the trailer will weigh around 8000-8500 loaded I should be well under the GCWR with enough room to shoot a moose and bring him home too.
Don't forget to add the weight of all passengers and what they have in the truck.
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I have first hand experience..had a 2013 ram 1500...wanted a 28dsbh....with family, etc on board, I would have been way, way over on payload....I sold it and ordered a 1T diesel as I was not comfortable with the weights). Not to mention I could really feel a 4000lb trailer behind me, let alone a 8k lb trailer. The power was fine, but the P tires and soft suspension wasnt good at all. Good luck
Damn... 4000lbs and you didn't like it? You might be hard to please, lol... Tow 4000lbs with a Max-Tow Eco and you won't know it's there. My enclosed with two big atv's a trailer, a boat/motor, fuel, all our hunting camp/gear for 2 weeks. That is easily over 6000lbs and the Eco has no trouble at all. The same trip with my 2005 5.4 L V8 cost me $340 MORE in fuel than with the Eco and fuel prices were the same.

That's a 6000km round trip journey with many mountain passes and no handling issues whatsoever.

The payload of my truck is definitely cutting it close with the whole family but my kids are all under 12 and not big. We don't need any additional gear in the truck like bikes etc.... It can all fit in the trailer if it needs to.

If the tongue weight was around 900lbs loaded we'd be on the money.

Payload = 1615
Me = 200
Wife = 130 and her "bag"
Kids = 250 including their "gadgets"
Hitch = 80-100 (haven't bought one yet)
Tongue = 936 (assuming 12% loaded at 7800lbs)
= 1616 lbs.

A Full tank of fuel is factored into the payload already.

An add-a-leaf to the rear adds 500-800lbs of payload capacity... Not on the door sticker, but the suspension would be quite a bit beefier.
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Damn... 4000lbs and you didn't like it? You might be hard to please, lol... Tow 4000lbs with a Max-Tow Eco and you won't know it's there. My enclosed with two big atv's a trailer, a boat/motor, fuel, all our hunting camp/gear for 2 weeks. That is easily over 6000lbs and the Eco has no trouble at all. The same trip with my 2005 5.4 L V8 cost me $340 MORE in fuel than with the Eco and fuel prices were the same.



That's a 6000km round trip journey with many mountain passes and no handling issues whatsoever.



The payload of my truck is definitely cutting it close with the whole family but my kids are all under 12 and not big. We don't need any additional gear in the truck like bikes etc.... It can all fit in the trailer if it needs to.



If the tongue weight was around 900lbs loaded we'd be on the money.



Payload = 1615

Me = 200

Wife = 130 and her "bag"

Kids = 250 including their "gadgets"

Hitch = 80-100 (haven't bought one yet)

Tongue = 936 (assuming 12% loaded at 7800lbs)

= 1616 lbs.



A Full tank of fuel is factored into the payload already.



An add-a-leaf to the rear adds 500-800lbs of payload capacity... Not on the door sticker, but the suspension would be quite a bit beefier.

the power was fine, but I could feel the trailer back there a good bit. Those that say "tows 8000lbs like its not even there" are full of it, or are oblivious to what is going on IMO. The EB engine is a sweet gas mill..no doubt about it..I like it better than the Hemi I had as the torque was right there with the EB, where the Hemi liked to rev to get into the power...but it is still in a 1/2 ton truck. The term 1/2 ton towable is vague at best...lots of trailer can be towed with 1/2 tons for sure, but many more are better suited for heavier trucks imo.

Your tires, lug nuts, suspension, brakes, everything goes into payload. You cannot increase your payload by adding springs. It is what it is...its up to you to determine if you are OK with being right up to the limits or a bit over. You add a leaf, but you are still running P tires I am guessing? Lots of flex in the sidewalls...I will say that after towing with my Cummins, I would never, ever go back to a gas engine. A HD truck is just more stable...more weight, bigger brakes, much higher load rated tires, etc, etc. Yeah it costs more and rides rougher, but it does the job much, much better...and I use it for a DD
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You add a leaf, but you are still running P tires I am guessing?
10 ply LT tires. We don't run P tires on the roads up here I like to travel and expect them to last very long.
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