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Old 11-16-2014, 08:03 PM   #21
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Take in consideration that all the weight ratings has to within their limits.
Means GCWR, GVWR's and GAWR's.


I use a Weight Distribution Flow Chart with all my TV and TT or 5er weight ratings, if stopped by cops or DOT and they tell me I am overloaded I show this flow chart. Most of the time they are satisfied. But they are still in their right to take me to a scale.


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Old 11-16-2014, 08:07 PM   #22
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10 ply LT tires. We don't run P tires on the roads up here I like to travel and expect them to last very long.
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I use a Weight Distribution Flow Chart with all my TV and TT or 5er weight ratings, if stopped by cops or DOT and they tell me I am overloaded I show this flow chart. Most of the time they are satisfied. But they are still in their right to take me to a scale.
What's that look like? example?
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:56 PM   #24
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In 2012 it says the 29QBH had a dry weight of 6745 with 880 on the tongue vs the 2014 29 QBH which is 6415 dry and 800 tongue. Lighter materials?
Outdoor kitchen took some weight off the Tongue I beleive.
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I use a Weight Distribution Flow Chart with all my TV and TT or 5er weight ratings, if stopped by cops or DOT and they tell me I am overloaded I show this flow chart. Most of the time they are satisfied. But they are still in their right to take me to a scale.


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FYI, if you are stopped and weighed by the police or DOT they are only making sure that your vehicle is registered for the weights. Theoretically speaking I can register my Tundra for 8800 lbs and there is nothing the cops can do to me, so long as my GVWR is under 8800 lbs... even though Toyota rates it to 7200 lbs.

A flow chart means absolutely nothing to any certified truck inspector. It is a very simple process. The total weight on the 4 tires of your truck have to equal LESS than or EQUAL to what it is registered for. The total weight on all truck and trailer tires have to equal LESS than or EQUAL to what you are licensed to operate.

Manufacturer warranty ratings (ie GVWR stickers) do not come in to play when stopped and weighed by the police. Now... those ratings do matter if you are involved in a collision involving serious physical injury or death and a lawyer is trying to sue you for gross negligence. Even then, if you are 200 lbs over its hard to show gross negligence. If you are 1000 lbs over it becomes a lot easier to make that claim.
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FYI, if you are stopped and weighed by the police or DOT they are only making sure that your vehicle is registered for the weights. Theoretically speaking I can register my Tundra for 8800 lbs and there is nothing the cops can do to me, so long as my GVWR is under 8800 lbs... even though Toyota rates it to 7200 lbs.

A flow chart means absolutely nothing to any certified truck inspector. It is a very simple process. The total weight on the 4 tires of your truck have to equal LESS than or EQUAL to what it is registered for. The total weight on all truck and trailer tires have to equal LESS than or EQUAL to what you are licensed to operate.

Manufacturer warranty ratings (ie GVWR stickers) do not come in to play when stopped and weighed by the police. Now... those ratings do matter if you are involved in a collision involving serious physical injury or death and a lawyer is trying to sue you for gross negligence. Even then, if you are 200 lbs over its hard to show gross negligence. If you are 1000 lbs over it becomes a lot easier to make that claim.
I am not sure what the legalities are here in BC. This trailer is skirting the payload line, that's fine. I have to make a decision.

Here in BC I've not heard of anyone being pulled over by DOT to check out their vacation rig and weight it. On the other hand I've witnessed many grossly overloaded trailers heading up the highways. If you look like a wreck waiting to happen you are probably much more likely to get stopped.

My other "fix" to this situation is to just throw the family in the minivan and I can drive the truck/trailer by myself.

OR... Find a lighter trailer. There is a Surveyor 294QBLE that has caught me eye... Similar floorplan and about 1000lbs lighter dry.
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huntnrig; http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing...ull-mv2024.pdf


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will try to move flow chart from other PC and see if I can paste


My suggestion to everyone is just do your home work and research Truck specifications and local state/provincial laws. When travelling you also have to take in considerations the district laws you travel through.
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Cool, thanks. Not much in there but vague info. I have a family member who is a claims manager at ICBC I will ask them what their take is.

It's so close that I personally don't see an issue in my situation others opinions may vary. If I go 100lbs over payload my axle is not going to break, my truck is not going to roll over and the lug nuts will not fall off. That is my feeling anyways.

If I was 1000+ lbs over payload... Then I would be an idiot.

* - moving my spare from under the truck to into the trailer storage would remove 60lbs of payload... we're getting closer. Take off the tail gate and that's another 80lbs... Wait... Can't take off the tailgate because it has the backup camera... doh!
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It's so close that I personally don't see an issue in my situation others opinions may vary. If I go 100lbs over payload my axle is not going to break, my truck is not going to roll over and the lug nuts will not fall off. That is my feeling anyways.

If I was 1000+ lbs over payload... Then I would be an idiot.

* - moving my spare from under the truck to into the trailer storage would remove 60lbs of payload... we're getting closer. Take off the tail gate and that's another 80lbs...
I agree with this, however I would ask do you really want to do this every time you tow that trailer? As a large family you certainly could all fit in the truck cab, but again is this what you want to do. If you are going to get the QBH, and it is a nice trailer, if a differnt TV isn't in the cards I think I would take two vehicles before I started removing tail gates and spare tires to keep the weight down. DW and some kids following in a separate car seems reasonable considering you are a family of 6.
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I agree with this, however I would ask do you really want to do this every time you yow that trailer? As a large family you certainly could all fit in the truck cab, but again is this why you want to do. If you are going to get the QBH, and it is a nice trailer, if a differnt TV isn't in the cards I think I would take two vehicles before I started removing tail gates and spare tires to keep the weight down. DW and some kids following in a separate car seems reasonable considering you are a family of 6.
The spare tire would actually be no issue... It's easier to get at anyways if it's not under the truck. Tailgate stays on because it has the backup Camera.

I found another thread where a gentleman actually weighed his 29QBH at a scale.

See Post Here

He was 7780lbs loaded with gear (no water) and a tongue weight of 900lbs with two full propane tanks. Those specs were for a 2011 29QBH which has 120lbs more listed tongue weight and 215 lbs more dry weight then the 2014 29QBH.

I think I will be within the payload limits. Well within my actual towing weight capacity.

Upgrading the TV is not out of the question but that won't be for a few years. At least I know the trailer could accommodate us as my kids grow.
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