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Old 11-16-2014, 03:00 PM   #1
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Towing 29QBH with F-150 Ecoboost HD Max Tow

Hey Everyone,

My wife and I are looking to buy our first TT. We'd really like to join the Jayco family but my only concern is my current Tow Vehicle.

I am looking at the following trailers

2006 Jay Flight 31BHS 6885lbs dry with a tonque weight of 970lbs unloaded.
2014 Jay Flight 29QBH 6400lbs dry with a tonque weight of 800lbs unloaded.

My truck is a 2011 F-150 Ecoboost with Max Tow 3.73 rear and HD Payload (7650 GWVR).

Max Payload = 1615lbs (I might add an add-a-leaf)
Max Tow w/WD hitch = 11,300lbs

I feel the 31BHS is too heavy of a trailer but the 29QBH might be just right.

It's on the heavier side of things, but it's a Jayco and built better than many of the lightweight trailers I've looked at. I'll be hauling this thing all around BC and it needs to hold up well for at least a decade.

We are a family of 6 (4 kids under 12) so my only issue is the payload... (especially as we grow)

With the 29QBH loaded to say 8000-8500lbs (we won't fill the fresh water) my truck payload is going to be pushing the limit with all of us in the truck and the tonque weight of the trailer.

By loading the trailer efficiently we can probably reduce the tonque weight slightly and/or my other idea was to install a set of add-a-leafs which will bring up the payload of my pickup into the realm of an F-250. Many guys have had good results with them.

The truck has the power to pull this trailer all day through our mountains here no problem... But I am open to any rational thoughts from you folk
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Old 11-16-2014, 03:13 PM   #2
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Only thing I will mention is that you cannot increase your payload. What it is from the factory is what it is. It might handle better with the add-a-leaf system, but you will still be stressing whatever the weakest link is that limits your payload.


That being said, I am buying a 2015 29QBS and pulling it with a 2010 Tundra with slightly less payload available than you. I only have 2 kids (2 years and a newborn coming in the next month) so I have less weight in truck and less crap to carry everywhere.


I'm optimistic that you and I will both be fine with these weights. I would make sure I have a quality WDH and sway control and be sensible about how you load and what speeds you drive.
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Old 11-16-2014, 03:26 PM   #3
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Only thing I will mention is that you cannot increase your payload. What it is from the factory is what it is. It might handle better with the add-a-leaf system, but you will still be stressing whatever the weakest link is that limits your payload.
Gotcha... On my truck the weakest link would be the 6 bolt rims then. As the next heavier payload package for F-150's has 7 bolt wheels.

The 2011 F-150 has built in trailer sway control with the integrated trailer brake controller. We are pretty good about packing stuff efficiently so in the truck it would be me, my wife and the 4 kids... maybe some snacks etc... and a full tank of fuel.

This trailer has more than enough storage space to hold all our stuff so with that in mind we're going to be right at my Payload capacity in the truck, while the trailer has a payload of almost 3000lbs.

When my boys get older then it'd be a good time to upgrade the TV because I intend on keeping the trailer for a while.
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Old 11-16-2014, 03:28 PM   #4
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I bought a Whitehawk 28DSBH with dry weight of #5900 and prob close to #7000 loaded. I tow it with a 2012 F150, 5.0 and 3.73 gearing with absolutely no issues. Completed an 8,400 km trip to the East coast this summer and couldn't be happier with how it towed. I use a Husky Centerline hitch with #1200 bars and have the trailer set up perfectly. This is a must. I get no bounce, push or sway with this set up and kept my speeds to 105 kph. Plan on heading to the West coast next year to Vancouver Island then back home through Montana, SD and Mn. I don't think I would go any heavier than what I have now without moving up to a 3/4 ton. The Whitehawk 28DSBH has been a great TT for us. Good luck.
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Old 11-16-2014, 04:22 PM   #5
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Are you sure yours has the HD payload feature? The GVWR should be 8200# and there should be 7 lugs per wheel.
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Old 11-16-2014, 04:36 PM   #6
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Are you sure yours has the HD payload feature? The GVWR should be 8200# and there should be 7 lugs per wheel.
Yes. There are many different HD payload configurations depending on the truck and it's options. For my truck and it's options it has the HD payload package (#7650). The door sticker says 1615lbs passengers + cargo.
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I suspect with the QBH you will be over on payload, I wouldn't want to tow like that, but many do and swear that 2500/250 trucks aren't necessary. I disagree and that is why I got a durmax before we got our 29QBH.

I also use a Husky Centerline, it has performed flawlessly for thousands of miles with different TV and TT. It is however very heavy, much heavier than the comparable Equal-I-Zer and Dual Cam sets ups are have seen.

Including dual Grp 24 batteries and the Centerline Hitch my TW is just why of 1100 lbs.
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Mine is a 2012 XLT with HD Payload and it's pretty much loaded but I've got like 800 lbs more capacity that you do. I agree that depending on the options installed, the available cargo capacity will be affected but that shouldn't change the lug configuration. BTW, I haven't seen an HD payload package that's less than 8200#.
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Old 11-16-2014, 05:27 PM   #9
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Mine is a 2012 XLT with HD Payload and it's pretty much loaded but I've got like 800 lbs more capacity that you do. I agree that depending on the options installed, the available cargo capacity will be affected but that shouldn't change the lug configuration. BTW, I haven't seen a non-HD payload package that's less than 8200#.
If my truck didn't come with the 7650GVW package it would only have a payload of 1000-1300lbs. My last Ecoboost had the 7700GVW package.

You are right it's not listed as HD just as "7650GVW package" on the MSRP sheet. I do know the truck has got more payload than those without this package.
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I suspect with the QBH you will be over on payload, I wouldn't want to tow like that, but many do and swear that 2500/250 trucks aren't necessary. I disagree and that is why I got a durmax before we got our 29QBH.
In 2012 it says the 29QBH had a dry weight of 6745 with 880 on the tongue vs the 2014 29 QBH which is 6415 dry and 800 tongue. Lighter materials?
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