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Old 02-16-2014, 09:52 PM   #1
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Question Towing a 27DSRL w/Silverado 1500

I am a newbee - never pulled a camper but I was ready to pull the trigger on a 27DSRL when I thought I better run some weight limits calculations. I have a 2012 Silverado 1500 w/towing package. Rated to tow 9700lbs so I thought "no sweat" for the 27DSRL 5355lbs UVW. Payload got me! I assumed at least 800lbs for 3 passengers, a driver and some "stuff". I assumed 910lbs tongue weight plus 100lbs for the WDH weight and 7500lbs TT GVWR. I assumed 67% of the tongue weight gets transferred to the truck payload. Does this seem reasonable to you seasoned campers? Will I really need to load the TT to the full 7500lbs? Now I'm looking at the 23MBH as a lighter alternative. I'm not ready to buy a new truck until I'm sure I want to get into and stay in this camping life.
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:57 PM   #2
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How much cargo capacity do you have per the sticker in the drivers door jam? Let's start there. I assume you 3:42 gears, is that right?

On the surface I think you can pull that trailer with a 1500, but better run the numbers.
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:21 PM   #3
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Sticker says "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should not exceed 1618lbs. Yes it is equipped with 3:42 gears.
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:40 PM   #4
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1618-910=708
708-100=608
3 people at 800 lbs is pretty heavy. My kids are still small, but the family of 5 weighs in at 535, and I'm nearly half of that. One way to help with the cargo capacity is to make sure you have the "stuff" you're mentioning loaded on the camper.
Can you tell us the weights of passenger 1,2,3?
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:57 PM   #5
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KYCAMPER,

Your correct, Payload Capacity can be a challenge with 1/2 tons when considering some of the larger/heavier TT's, especially since the TT's load tongue weight comes off the TV's payload capacity.

If you want to reduce some of the guesswork, take your loaded TV (fuel full, passengers, etc.) to a CAT scale and weigh it. Subtract the CAT scale weight from your TV's GVWR that is noted on your driver's door......., the remaining weight is the Payload Capacity you have available for a TT's loaded tongue weight, WDH, and any other weight not accounted for at the CAT scale.

For the 27DSRL figure a desired loaded tongue weight to be in the range of 13% to 15% of the TT's loaded weight. Also, the actual Ship Weight (yellow sticker on side of TT) of the 27DSRL will be around 400lbs higher then the published UVW of 5,355lbs.

The TT tongue weight placed on the TV hitch ball actually remains fairly constant..., the weight that gets distributed (transferred) to the front of the TV and to the TT's axles actually comes of the TV's rear axle. Not all TV/TT combinations are the same do to TV suspensions, loaded weights, etc., so the amount of weight being distributed can very. IMO for calculation purposes I would figure 100% of the TT tongue weight against the TV's payload capacity.., still knowing that some weight from the TV's rear axle will be distributed back to the TT axles via the WDH (will cover for weight guessing error).

Sample 27DSRL loaded: (5,355lbs UVW) + (400lbs ship weight delta) + (50lbs dealer battery, etc.) + (700lbs TT cargo, no fluids) = 6,505lbs
Sample 27DSRL loaded tongue weight range: 6,505lbs loaded weight (13% to 15%) = 846lbs to 976lbs

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On Edit: Two JOF members had referenced that their 2013 27DSRL (Published UVW 5,400lbs) actual Ship Weights were 5,800lbs and 5,834lbs respectively.
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:58 AM   #6
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Driver = 195lbs
Passenger 1 = 165lbs
Passenger 2 = 130lbs
Passenger 3 = 200lbs
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Do it, you'll be fine. Neighbor here at the state Pk in Fla has same unit and is pulling it with a V6 Dodge SUV. Pulled it down from the midwest with no issues.
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I've never figured out the loaded weight on my Silverado but real-world experience towing a 5400 lb 26BH (dry) plus gear and a family of 4 has been less that impressive. The 5.3 with the 3:42 gears is ok on flat, open road but I have little passing power above 60 and it struggles up moderate inclines. The 2012 Silverado with the 6 speed transmission may give you a different experience than the 4 speed in mine...
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My previous TT was 4700lbs dry ,,,, with the stuff for my family of 4 and hitting the road for a 2 week travel trip, never had any issues with my Sierra 1500. Yes going up hills you feel you're pulling something, just get you tranny in a lower gear and let the truck do the work... keeping the RPM somewhere between 1500-2500...don't try pushing it too high, you're just looking for trouble.

No need to be in a rush when you're pulling something!
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I wouldn't think you would have an issue with that TT...

I find your Tongue weight high for an TT of that dry weight, but I haven't checked.... and a WDH is not 100lbs...50-60 would be more accurate...


I'll be towing a 28BHBE with my Sierra 1500 (starting this Spring), and I'm convinced I won't have an issue with its 7042 dry weight or it's 700lbs dry tongue weight
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