Jayco RV Owners Forum
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-05-2014, 11:32 AM   #11
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Where all the bills are
Posts: 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by eldermike View Post
I tow with F250 4x4 and Equalizer hitch with 12K bars and it's the best pulling setup I have ever pulled. I added timbren springs to the truck. Passing trucks do not move me at all.
I have also looked into the equalizer hitches as well. I get about a 50/50 ratio compared to the Reese Straight Line which I have. The Reese came with the trailer, so I am working with it for now. How does the factory sway control work on your F-250? Mine is an '02, so no modern tech there. Do the Timbrens seem to make a difference? I have read about them, but not convinced I have enough roll for them to be effective.
Your trailer is pretty much identical to mine, except your front slide is the bed and mine is the wardrobe. What is your hitch weight loaded?
__________________

Bigiron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 12:38 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: NC
Posts: 973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigiron View Post
I have also looked into the equalizer hitches as well. I get about a 50/50 ratio compared to the Reese Straight Line which I have. The Reese came with the trailer, so I am working with it for now. How does the factory sway control work on your F-250? Mine is an '02, so no modern tech there. Do the Timbrens seem to make a difference? I have read about them, but not convinced I have enough roll for them to be effective.
Your trailer is pretty much identical to mine, except your front slide is the bed and mine is the wardrobe. What is your hitch weight loaded?
This is my second big TT with Equalizer hitches. I have owned most of the hitch types out there at one point in time.

I can pass trucks or have them pass me with one hand on the wheel, I don't have any sway with my setup so there is nothing for the truck to correct or it's doing it so well as I don't notice it.

The timbrens do make a difference in hitching and unhitching. Without the timbrens the trailer/truck has to be moved up and down a significant amount to hitch/unhitch. With them it sits on the timbrens and that's a far as it's going down. It makes the hitch up much faster. The ride is not as good with them but the stability is better. The transfer of road conditions is much quicker to feel but the event duration is much shorter. What I mean is when you hit a bumb you get bumped quickly but it's over quickly. Without them you get a bumb and then you ride a wave for a few seconds as the suspension movements settle back out.

I have no idea what my loaded hitch weight is but I know I am setup correctly based on measurments from wheel well to ground on all four tires.

I have pulled 4 TT over the last 38 years and the longer/heavier they are the easier they pull. Our shortest was 19 feet and with a 1/2 ton truck and a chain style WDH I would almost start drinking again after pulling it anywhere. Next was 30 feet with the same sytle hitch and the add on sway control and my decision to not drink remaind in tack, but not by much. Next came 32 feet and the Equalizer.......amazing change but with the exception of wind. That trailer was light weight and wind had it's way with it. We would skip windy conditions if at all possible. This 338RLTS at 39 feet is the best so far. I upgraded the tires to Load range E and added wet bolts to the moryde suspension and timbrens to the truck. Could not be happier.
Your trailer is heavy and long it should pull very well.

Good luck.
__________________

__________________
No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar. Abraham Lincoln

2016 36FBTS Pinnacle
2016 F350, 6.7, 4x4, DRW, long bed
B & W Companion 5th wheel Hitch
eldermike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2014, 08:40 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Black Mountain
Posts: 139
I tow a 2013 334RBTS which is similar size and weight to the 328. I found this trailer is really sensitive to weigh distribution. My fresh tanks are in the rear. If those are even half full, trailer is all over the road. We have a rear bunkhouse which is a great place to toss stuff, problem is makes the trailer sway really bad when anything is back there. My tongue weight is 1,100 lbs so we have to pile everything around the island which is over the axles. Another thing is Jayco like everyone else puts Chinese junk tires on these units. Damn side walls are so weak. Don't care what the load rating is, these tires are garbage. Point is weak sidewalls make trailers sway. I would check loading habits, keep anything heavy over axles, travel with empty tanks if possible, put name brand tires on it with heaviest rating you can buy, then visit the CAT scale. I run 1200 lb bars on my single rear wheel F250 on #5 link. As long as we pack correctly she stays straight.
__________________
2011 Powerstoke
2013 334RBTS
East Bound & Down- We Love Camping :)
Firefighter78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2014, 07:23 PM   #14
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Where all the bills are
Posts: 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Firefighter78 View Post
I tow a 2013 334RBTS which is similar size and weight to the 328. I found this trailer is really sensitive to weigh distribution. My fresh tanks are in the rear. If those are even half full, trailer is all over the road. We have a rear bunkhouse which is a great place to toss stuff, problem is makes the trailer sway really bad when anything is back there. My tongue weight is 1,100 lbs so we have to pile everything around the island which is over the axles. Another thing is Jayco like everyone else puts Chinese junk tires on these units. Damn side walls are so weak. Don't care what the load rating is, these tires are garbage. Point is weak sidewalls make trailers sway. I would check loading habits, keep anything heavy over axles, travel with empty tanks if possible, put name brand tires on it with heaviest rating you can buy, then visit the CAT scale. I run 1200 lb bars on my single rear wheel F250 on #5 link. As long as we pack correctly she stays straight.
Thanks for the info. My fresh water tank is about 1/3 full, so I will drain it next time we leave. Good advice on the tires, today I bought a set of 16" HiSpec aluminum wheels and 10 ply tires. I will have them swapped out by next week. I have known my local tire dealer for 30 or so years and when I called him, he fired off a half dozen pics of torn fenders, fender flares, body work and so on. He said he does a set or two every week and talked me completely out of the 10 ply 15" replacements into the 16" load range E. Its a shame Jayco puts these underated, undersized Chinese junk tires out there and I am glad I appreciate the heads up.
Bigiron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2014, 08:29 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 1,358
Quote:
Originally Posted by eldermike View Post
I tow with F250 4x4 and Equalizer hitch with 12K bars and it's the best pulling setup I have ever pulled. I added Timbren springs to the truck. Passing trucks do not move me at all.
X2 on the Timbrens. I have the same truck as Eldermike and the Timbrens made a huge difference. My tongue weight is 1400lbs and hitch up is much easier. My hitch is a 2.5in Reese Titan shank with 1500lb spring bars. I have a little "bounce" now and then, but virtually no sway.
__________________
2012 Eagle 320 RLDS
2017 Ford F-250 6.2l
3.73 E-locker
TCNashville is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2014, 02:45 PM   #16
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Bothell
Posts: 24
Equilizer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by eldermike View Post
This is my second big TT with Equalizer hitches. I have owned most of the hitch types out there at one point in time.

I can pass trucks or have them pass me with one hand on the wheel, I don't have any sway with my setup so there is nothing for the truck to correct or it's doing it so well as I don't notice it.

The timbrens do make a difference in hitching and unhitching. Without the timbrens the trailer/truck has to be moved up and down a significant amount to hitch/unhitch. With them it sits on the timbrens and that's a far as it's going down. It makes the hitch up much faster. The ride is not as good with them but the stability is better. The transfer of road conditions is much quicker to feel but the event duration is much shorter. What I mean is when you hit a bumb you get bumped quickly but it's over quickly. Without them you get a bumb and then you ride a wave for a few seconds as the suspension movements settle back out.

I have no idea what my loaded hitch weight is but I know I am setup correctly based on measurments from wheel well to ground on all four tires.

I have pulled 4 TT over the last 38 years and the longer/heavier they are the easier they pull. Our shortest was 19 feet and with a 1/2 ton truck and a chain style WDH I would almost start drinking again after pulling it anywhere. Next was 30 feet with the same sytle hitch and the add on sway control and my decision to not drink remaind in tack, but not by much. Next came 32 feet and the Equalizer.......amazing change but with the exception of wind. That trailer was light weight and wind had it's way with it. We would skip windy conditions if at all possible. This 338RLTS at 39 feet is the best so far. I upgraded the tires to Load range E and added wet bolts to the moryde suspension and timbrens to the truck. Could not be happier.
Your trailer is heavy and long it should pull very well.

Good luck.
Thanks for the idea on the timbrens. I'm using a 10k equalizer now on a 7k# TT and really like it better than chains and friction sway bars. I usually use my power jack to lift the truck for bar alignment. What Equalizer you using now - 14K?
marlinmike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2014, 03:22 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: NC
Posts: 973
Quote:
Originally Posted by marlinmike View Post
Thanks for the idea on the timbrens. I'm using a 10k equalizer now on a 7k# TT and really like it better than chains and friction sway bars. I usually use my power jack to lift the truck for bar alignment. What Equalizer you using now - 14K?
I am using the 12K bars. I found I do not need to go up to the 14K bars. But all this depends on how you load your rig.
__________________

__________________
No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar. Abraham Lincoln

2016 36FBTS Pinnacle
2016 F350, 6.7, 4x4, DRW, long bed
B & W Companion 5th wheel Hitch
eldermike is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia State Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2002-2016 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.