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Old 03-11-2015, 10:53 AM   #1
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towing capacity

My Dodge 1500 is rated to pull 10000 lbs. My travel trailer is 6700 dry. It pulls the trailer just fine. How much weight can the Ford F250 pull. Is it much more? What's the difference? What's the tow rating on the F250?
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Old 03-11-2015, 11:02 AM   #2
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Your Dodge is a 1/2 ton, the F250 is a 3/4 ton, so it can tow a lot more. More important it has a much higher payload. That said, a Dodge 2500 or GM 2500 (3/4 ton) will also have a higher towing capacity and payload.

What those numbers are is dependent on the option packages, engine size, gearing, cab configuration, 2wd vs 4wd, bed size, etc. Everything you need to know is in the respective owners manual. You can download free manuals from all the manufacturers and compare.

FYI, dry weight is a fictional number. After options are installed from the factory the trailer will weigh a lot more than the "dry weight". And then when you put in your stuff, it's likely to be 1000# or more when its ready to tow.
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Old 03-11-2015, 11:24 AM   #3
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Your 1500 may tow 10000lbs, but what is the cargo capacity?
a 10000lb trailer translates to about 1200lbs of tongue weight carried by your total cargo capacity.

Additionally, a trucks tow rating and cargo capacity assume NO initial cargo in the truck and (usually) only a 150# driver.

Add a spouse, two teenagers, the dog, firewood for camping, and the trailer tongue weight. At this point you will probably need 2000# of cargo capacity. Hence a 3/4ton truck or 3/4ton suburban.

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Old 03-11-2015, 11:30 AM   #4
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DocBrown gave an excellent answer. The one area of elaboration is to also look at payload capacity of the respective trucks. That means the GVWR of the truck minus truck weight, weight of fuel, passengers, and all other stuff added to the truck, plus the weight on the hitch. If your trailer is actually 7,500 lbs, your hitch weight is somewhere between 750 and 1,050 lbs. That, with all the other stuff, might be more weight than the truck can handle, even if it can pull it. One would think the F250 would be far better for that, but as DocBrown said, it all depends on how it is configured.
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Old 03-11-2015, 11:32 AM   #5
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My parents tow a 8000# fiver with their extended cab ford 1/2ton. they are right at max capacity. My dad had to upgrade to D rated tires and add airbag levelers.

I pull an 8500# TT. the only thing I had to add for a piece of mind while towing is a cup of coffee in a go-cup, a bag of snacks, and tunes.

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Old 03-11-2015, 01:33 PM   #6
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Your 1500 may tow 10000lbs, but what is the cargo capacity?
a 10000lb trailer translates to about 1200lbs of tongue weight carried by your total cargo capacity.

Additionally, a trucks tow rating and cargo capacity assume NO initial cargo in the truck and (usually) only a 150# driver.

Add a spouse, two teenagers, the dog, firewood for camping, and the trailer tongue weight. At this point you will probably need 2000# of cargo capacity. Hence a 3/4ton truck or 3/4ton suburban.

Just my $.02
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That's bang on, Tim. In my experience you will exceed the Rear GAWR well before you get to the max tow rating. In my opinion that number is for the folks towing a cotton wagon or a 15k# 5th and a 9k# inboard behind that. "But I only got 3200# on the pin."
Our first TT was the modest X23B (4400# loaded/600# tongue). Our '03 Expedition max tow was about 9k# if memory serves but we were within 200# of the Rear GAWR.
Lots of folks will tow over weight but the thought of that makes me nervous.
I say this a lot, but....
The CAT Scale is your friend.

I can't quote the F250 but our 350 is:
GVWR 11400
Front GAWR 5000
Rear GAWR 6730
GCWR 22000

I expect the 250 numbers would be less by a SMALL amount since the 250/350 are so similar.

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FWIW, here are the specs from the two tow vehicles I’ve owned pulling the same 2008 26BHS Jayco. I have towed with max passengers and max camping stuff loaded in the tow vehicle (dog, kayaks, wood, bikes, etc)

Both towed the trailer without issue. No sway or loss of stability. The suburban just didn’t do anything in a great hurry. This included stopping as GMCs had notoriously bad breaks in the 90’s. The only thing it did do in a hurry was suck down gas (6-7mpg towing)
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engine 6.7 TD
HP 350@3000
TORQUE 650@1500
axle ratio 3.73
GVWR 9,600
PAYLOAD 2,270
BASE WEIGHT 7,329
BASE WT FRONT 4,487
BASE WT REAR 2,843
GAWR FRONT 5,500
GAWR REAR 6,500
GCWR 20,000
MAX TOW 12,500



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engine 7.4 GAS
HP 290@4000
TORQUE 410@3200
axle ratio 4.1
GVWR 8,600
PAYLOAD 2,997
BASE WEIGHT 5,603
GAWR FRONT 4,250
GAWR REAR 6,000
MAX TOW 10,000
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Old 03-11-2015, 04:10 PM   #8
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In the TT world you will generally eat up payload before you eat up towing capacity. 5'ers are a different story.

My F250 xlt 4x4 crew cab has 2800 lbs of payload. Plenty to tow almost any TT with the family, bikes and gear in the bed.

4x4's have a lower tow rating due to the extra steel. Higher trim levels have lower payload ratings due to the extra weight of the options.
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Your tongue weight is likely to be 1000 to 1200 lbs when loaded up. You will almost certainly be above your payload rating with a 1/2 ton truck.

My trailer is 1300 lbs lighter than yours at a dry weight of 5832. Fully loaded runs about 6800 with tongue weight close to 1000 lbs.

It's CAT Scale time!
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... the only thing I had to add for a piece of mind while towing is a cup of coffee in a go-cup, a bag of snacks, and tunes.
LMAO, Best response I have ever heard!
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