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Old 10-01-2014, 02:55 PM   #1
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Towing vehicle delima

Hello,
We are planning to buy Jayco 23MB in Spring.
After a long research, We have finally nailed down our future towing vehicles to VW Touareg Diesel 2014 and Grand Cherokee Diesel 2015.
I would appreciate anyone's comments on those cars with regard to reliability and price.
We are also planning to do some light off roading with the new car.
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Old 10-01-2014, 03:01 PM   #2
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with a loaded tongue weight of over 700lbs I wouldn't recommend either.

lots of power to tow but little payload
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Old 10-01-2014, 03:02 PM   #3
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If you need to do even light off roading, the Jeep would be my choice. All Jeeps are made with off roading in mind and pretty much have flawless 4WD systems.
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with a loaded tongue weight of over 700lbs I wouldn't recommend either.

lots of power to tow but little payload

Here is the spec for Jayco 23MB
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Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs)4,200
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs)425
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs)6,500
Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs)2,300
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If you need to do even light off roading, the Jeep would be my choice. All Jeeps are made with off roading in mind and pretty much have flawless 4WD systems.
I like the GC much more than VW Touareg, however I have seen so many complains about GC's various issues which makes me to lean towards Touareg. Touareg is more expensive, does not have that many features that GC has but is more reliable, at least when you are reading the feed backs from the consumers.
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Old 10-01-2014, 04:08 PM   #6
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Here is the spec for Jayco 23MB
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Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs)4,200
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs)425
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs)6,500
Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs)2,300

before option weight is 4200.

it will be sitting on the dealers lot weighing at least 4590-4650.

add 600-900 lbs of personal items,tools,camping necessities and the weight ready to camp will be 5200-5500lbs.

in order to avoid a dangerous sway condition you will need a TW of 13 percent. 5500x13 %= 715lbs plus 100 lbs for the hitch.

that is a lot of trailer
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Old 10-01-2014, 04:15 PM   #7
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nbhybrid beat me to it. I was going to make an almost identical post. Your only saving grace would be to check and see if either TV has a spec for max tongue weight with a WD hitch. In other words trucks have two ratings, dead weight and max tongue weight with a WD hitch. If there is only one rating, then you will almost certainly be over.

Any reason you wouldn't consider a full size truck with 4WD?
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Old 10-01-2014, 04:23 PM   #8
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The GC Limited 4x4 with 3.0L Eco Diesel equipped with Heavy Duty Tow package has payload capacity of 1270. Take the above estimated 815 (tongue and hitch) and you're left with 455 lbs (depending on what the above 1270 includes; usually 150 lb driver and full tank of gas and fluids). That's the best equipped Jeep GC from a payload perspective. The Touraeg seems to have payload around 1155 lbs.

If it's just me and DW, I could make the Jeep work for us. But you start adding gear and kids, and you're out of your payload spec pretty quick. Also, with a trailer that long, you'll want a heavier tongue, and the short wheel base of either tow vehicle will be a pretty significant disadvantage.

Decisions decisions...
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I forgot to mention the soft suspension usually found in SUVs. With a 4x4 SUV with independent rear coil spring suspension, you could have a "saggy butt" (increasing your sway problems) even if you're within your payload spec. But IIRC, those new Jeeps have air suspension don't they? That might help...
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Old 10-01-2014, 04:38 PM   #10
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Don't get me wrong, I am not the weight police by any means especially with my set up but I had the TV before the trailer and bought one of the smallest trailers I could get and a new TV is not in the plans. I have been towing for many many years and i feel confident in my abilities.

I just wouldn't recommend either TV for that trailer because you haven't bought it yet and there are so many choices.

For the 55-60k you could get a fullsize loaded crew cab truck or tahoe which would be much better

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