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Old 02-02-2012, 07:27 AM   #11
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I just purchased my 2500 hemi, but I was puliing the 27bh with an 05 4.7 v8 ram. I was overweight for the truck when we loaded everything up for our trips. But even being overweight, the truck started out great. The truck only struggled on the highway. It was a fight to keep the truck up to 60mph. It just didn't have the strength at the top end. If I even thought about an upgrade the truck would slow down. After realizing that I just had to be patient and let the truck do what it could do, I had no problems. The truck pulled the weight and never broke down or caused any problems, but I knew I needed to upgrade for everyones safety. I truly think you will be fine with what you have, that hemi engine is awesome! I just wanted you to be sure that you don't buy to much TT for you r truck.

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Old 02-02-2012, 07:49 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by SecretCoveDave View Post
Last summer on our first trip ever with a TT, we got somewhere between 12 to 14 MPG!
I thought my new truck was broken or a hole in the gas tank.

I complained bitterly to wife, she told me to count GPD (gallons per day) instead.

I do, and am happier.
12 to 14 mpg towing is actually very, very good.

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Old 02-02-2012, 08:26 AM   #13
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Sounds about right. My 2001 5.9L Ram Quad cab 4 x 4 is 7150#. Lost about 400# towing capacity due to it being a 4x4. I tow a Jayco 234 TT just fine. Never really checked mileage. It get what it gets. You can't expect much towing. It can cruise at 60-65 mph all day.
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:32 AM   #14
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Yes Crabman, I am actually really happy with the mileage now I know more.

Kinda like pulling the TT, makes me think ahead, and I actually relax. Match my load to the road, take breaks, and only do 300 to 350 miles a day. On travel days.

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Old 02-02-2012, 11:33 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by mncamper View Post
...snip It does however have p rated tires and not LT. What is the difference between the two?
P is for passenger vehicles. LT is a light truck tire.

I would plan on getting LT tires soon.
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Old 02-02-2012, 05:22 PM   #16
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I have towed with P metric radials on my 96 Dodge, just watch your load rating. I have 245x16 tires and they have serve me well. Yes LT tires are nice but the price isn't, with a light trailer you should be ok to wear the tires out. If you feel safer with LT tires by all means get them.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:06 AM   #17
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Thanks for the input. We are off to the Minneapolis camper show today. As I tend to make emotional decissions the DW has asked that I do not buy on the spot and take a day to think about it after we decide on the unit. So far we have narrowed it down to three units. The x23b, x20e and a carry over Surveyor 234t (seems a little heavy). The DW likes the outside bathroom door on the 234t. I prefer the weight and build quality of the Jayco's. I did have the factory brake controller added to the ram this week and will certainly get a weight distribution hitch. I priced the units I am looking at at RV direct and have contacted the dealers that I will be dealing with. They came in very close to the direct prices and will throw in some extras to make the deal. Anything else I should be asking or looking at? Hopefully I will be posting in the new members forum on Sunday.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:42 AM   #18
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p is Euro-metric for passenger tires. You will be better of with LT's. LT's have stiffer sidewalls for greater load. Passenger tires are designed for softer rides.
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:21 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by mncamper View Post
The truck is rated for 8200# as equiped. I got that number from the owners manual and window sticker. It does seem like a lot for the truck wich is why I am trying to keep the weight down to around 5000#.......snip

Just a little food-for-thought prior to going to the RV show:

Your right to be a little suspicious about the published tow rating..., please review the following thread for a little insight into the "real" tow rating: https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthread.php?t=3866 Knowing a little about tow ratings ahead of time will allow you to keep the RV sales person honest.

Also, great that you are thinking in terms of "loaded" weights (TT GVWR), RV sales folks tend to focus on the TT Dry and UVW weights (but who tows an empty TT?). The Jayco UVW weight is not the ship weight, the actual ship weight will be specified on a Yellow sticker on the TT.

RV and WDH manufactures recommend that that the loaded TT tongue weight should be 10% to 15% of the loaded TT weight. On the longer TT's (26ft plus), use 13% to 15% of the loaded TT weight for the loaded tongue weight. Since you won't know what "your" actual loaded TT weight will be yet, I would use a worse case scenario: Take 15% of the TT's GVWR for a maximum loaded tongue weight...., but if your loading habits are to pack on the lite side, then you know your loaded tongue weight will be less.

Oh, leave credit cards and check book at home

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Old 02-10-2012, 08:09 AM   #20
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Loaded Weight

Many years ago an Airstream Caravan pulled in to a campground we were staying at. They had been out all summer from Maine ( where we were to Mexico) the had run all of the units on scales and they had a contest on how much they were OVER weight on the trailers.

One trailer had over a TON over its max load. Clear cut winner. They had collected pottery at every stop all summer long.

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