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Old 01-22-2018, 05:57 PM   #1
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I recently sold a 2004 Dodge Cummins diesel 2500 that was the most rattling truck I've ever seen. No one could talk at a normal voice in the cab when it was idling. The neighbors whined because I woke them up when I came home at night.

I was sitting at a red light the other day beside a Ford Power Stroke diesel. I had my window down and didn't realize it was indeed a diesel until I saw the emblem on the side of the truck. WOW, how quiet it was.

What models in the Dodge/Ram and the Ford are the quietest and MOST RELIABLE? What year did they come out?

Please school me on the quiet diesel's...

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Ford Power Stroke Diesel, 6.7L. Anything after the initial half of 2011 will work; while the newer years offer greater power and jake brakes they also cost more upfront.

With that said I believe all of the manufactures now have quiet, stink free diesels.

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Old 01-22-2018, 06:08 PM   #3
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We have a 2007.5 Duramax diesel which does not require DEF and is quiet.

We had an '02 Cummins 350 but upgraded the exhaust to 5" and a straight thru muffler so it could be heard coming down the street. Besides the fact that it was a 40' motorhome!
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I recently sold a 2004 Dodge Cummins diesel 2500 that was the most rattling truck I've ever seen. No one could talk at a normal voice in the cab when it was idling. The neighbors whined because I woke them up when I came home at night.

I was sitting at a red light the other day beside a Ford Power Stroke diesel. I had my window down and didn't realize it was indeed a diesel until I saw the emblem on the side of the truck. WOW, how quiet it was.

What models in the Dodge/Ram and the Ford are the quietest and MOST RELIABLE? What year did they come out?

Please school me on the quiet diesel's...

THANKS for your help.

Apparently you never owned a 1st or 2nd gen Cummins 5.9L. Both my 2004 and 2007 are QUIET compared to my former 2001 or 1992.

In all seriousness, all of the new trucks are quiet compared to what you just sold. You can actually go through a drive-through without having to shut the truck off and you can hear the radio without it being turned up to max.
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Quick research shows that starting in 2011 the Duramax 6.6L uses DEF. I think you'd find it more refined than the earlier engines. YMMV.
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Honestly, you can’t go wrong with any of the big three 2015+.


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Old 01-22-2018, 08:00 PM   #7
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Honestly, you can’t go wrong with any of the big three 2015+.
This.

My 2013 Ram with the 6.7 Cummins (with DEF) is really quiet. My 2011 Ram 3500 6.7 that didn’t use DEF was louder with an irritating turbo whine.

Go with any of the big three.
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Traded our 2009 Ram for the Ford. Night and day.

Listened to other new Ram trucks in various campgrounds and they are all louder than the Ford by quite a margin. Go test drive them and compare for yourself.

FWIW, most people cannot tell my truck is a diesel unless they look at the badges. When I test drove it I had to get out and look at the badges and sticker to make sure.
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Any diesel will "knock" when it idles.... but they have a reputation for being noisy because poor exhaust design...
Until recently, manufacturers relied on "big pipes" to scavenge the greater volume of exhaust gas.... and any motorcyclist will tell you that big pipes are loud pipes.
(Of course, there's also the guys who stick monstrous great organ-pipes on, and have to wear ear defenders...but there's no hope for them...)

More recently, manufacturers have started taking note of, among other things, European design ideas, when it comes to gasflow, and they're producing quieter, cleaner and more efficient diesels

(In a former life, I had a succession of four French cars... turbo diesels, 120 mph cars that were almost inaudible. )
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Any diesel will "knock" when it idles.... but they have a reputation for being noisy because poor exhaust design...

Stock diesels from the last 6-7 years run much smoother/ quieter; and they are stink free to boot. Go check them out.
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The Ford 6.7l has a valley mounted turbo charger which is very quiet and basically zero lag time. But as stated above you really can't go wrong with any of the big 3.
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Stock diesels from the last 6-7 years run much smoother/ quieter; and they are stink free to boot. Go check them out.
I do question how well the engines can "breath" and how restricted they are though. Changing the oil in my 2012 RAM is proof to me that there is a bunch of stuff not going out but being recirculated. It is quite and very enjoyable to ride in. I still have it stock for now but that might change if I ever have to replace the cat, DPF, etc. Those pieces of the puzzle are very expensive and can limit performance....
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"Those pieces of the puzzle are very expensive and can limit performance...."

Yes those parts (if required) tend to be expensive, but it's part of cleaning up the environment. I believe thats important. Rolling coal is becoming a thing of the past.

As far as limiting performance: todays "weak" heavy duties start out at 400Hp and 800 pounds/ torque. How much additional performance do you really require?
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I do question how well the engines can "breath" and how restricted they are though. Changing the oil in my 2012 RAM is proof to me that there is a bunch of stuff not going out but being recirculated. It is quite and very enjoyable to ride in. I still have it stock for now but that might change if I ever have to replace the cat, DPF, etc. Those pieces of the puzzle are very expensive and can limit performance....


Diesel oil turns black the minute you change it and start the engine. It’s my understanding it always has so not really evidence of anything.


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Diesel noise

owned a 2015 F250 6.7, quiet and strong, now a 2017 F350 6.7, same engine, same low noise, 1st 10k miles 5 gals of DEF is all.........very clean, strong and quiet. Test drove a Dodge quite a few years ago, could not hear radio........but I know they have improved as well.
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Diesel oil turns black the minute you change it and start the engine. It’s my understanding it always has so not really evidence of anything.


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It has since the introduction of EGR on diesels circa 2004. The engines before that kept the oil clean much longer. As you said, it would eventually get dark. But the instant black oil is a product if EGR.
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It has since the introduction of EGR on diesels circa 2004. The engines before that kept the oil clean much longer. As you said, it would eventually get dark. But the instant black oil is a product if EGR.


I’ve never owned a diesel truck older than 2015, but my family and friends diesel tractor oil was black almost immediately after changing long before EGR was introduced.


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Yes those parts (if required) tend to be expensive, but it's part of cleaning up the environment. I believe thats important. Rolling coal is becoming a thing of the past.

As far as limiting performance: todays "weak" heavy duties start out at 400Hp and 800 pounds/ torque. How much additional performance do you really require?
Love the environment and not a fan of rolling coal at all. There is defiantly a give and take here. Performance is not really my concern but potential fuel efficiency gains could be beneficial for sure, but at what costs... Changing performance at one place requires potential modifications somewhere else, for example transmission so... where does it end.... It is not broke, enjoyable to drive and ride in, pulls the things I have just fine, etc. That is the reason I am still stock and don't regret it. But I am a tinker and always looking for things to do.

I am a fan of the stock modern diesel trucks for sure.

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Defiantly a different kind of black from all the equipment (John Deere, CAT, etc) I have ran over the years. Of course all of those did not have the EGR systems or anything emissions related that is present in modern diesel trucks.
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I’ve never owned a diesel truck older than 2015, but my family and friends diesel tractor oil was black almost immediately after changing long before EGR was introduced.


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There was a drastic difference between my 1992 and 2001 Cummins and my 2004 and 2007. In cylinder EGR started January of 2004 with the Cummins.
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owned a 2015 F250 6.7, quiet and strong, now a 2017 F350 6.7, same engine, same low noise, 1st 10k miles 5 gals of DEF is all.........very clean, strong and quiet. Test drove a Dodge quite a few years ago, could not hear radio........but I know they have improved as well.
My 2017 Ram Cummins is very quiet. No problem listening to the radio at all. In fact, overall it's quieter than our 2004 E450 Class C Motor Home. We really had to crank up the radio in that thing to hear it over all the road noise.
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