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Old 09-01-2013, 01:29 PM   #21
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Playing around on the Dodge website the numbers do seem correct. If the base empty weight is 5555 lbs then you are only starting with 1245 lbs of payload and then you have to subtract everything that isn't included. Gas will weigh over 100 lbs and likely the class IV hitch does too. There are a number of options that can be added to the Laramie and they add up as do the cover and the sidesteps. My family of 4 weighs about 500lbs combined and that has the payload down to under 500 lbs right there.

I never thought about it much before but it really shows how you have to check all the numbers and know what you're going to use your truck for before you buy it. My friend with the F150 I mentioned earlier bought a used 1200lb camper to put in his truck. On his first trip his truck sagged seriously so when he got back he weighed it empty to make sure he wasn't over the limit. With only a driver aboard he only had 900 lbs of payload available. Now he has to decide what to do with either the truck or the camper.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:32 PM   #22
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Has anyone ever seen or put together a spreadsheet to print off and fill in the blanks to figure out all the numbers for towing capacity? Just a thought....I have never seen one around.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:50 PM   #23
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Perhaps automakers could steal an idea from RV manufactures. My Jay Feather has an empty weight on the web site of 4020 lbs base. As shipped with options it has a handy door sticker that shows 4420lbs. 400lbs of my payload is already used up and I need 400lbs more towing capacity but at least I know that when I buy it.

If automakers could include the shipped weight on the window sticker you could do the math right there and know if it would meet your needs.
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:01 PM   #24
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Has anyone ever seen or put together a spreadsheet to print off and fill in the blanks to figure out all the numbers for towing capacity? Just a thought....I have never seen one around.
Yes, I've thought an Excel Spreadsheet would be easy enough to put together for this purpose, just having to much fun to sit down and work on it :-)

Someday we should be able to have this resource.

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Old 09-01-2013, 05:58 PM   #25
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Has anyone ever seen or put together a spreadsheet to print off and fill in the blanks to figure out all the numbers for towing capacity?.....snip
Yes, I've run across a few but never put them to the test for accuracy. The one thing that seems to be missing in these worksheets is the ability to account for the weight the WDH transfers to the TT axles, and impact of on the TV's GVWR.

Excel weight worksheet example: http://www.popupexplorer.com/files/T...yWorksheet.xls

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If automakers could include the shipped weight on the window sticker you could do the math right there and know if it would meet your needs.
When I was looking for my last tow vehicle, a Silverado 2500 HD, the GM dealer printed off a 'factsheet' for the specific vehicle I was looking at. The factsheet included the VIN with all the pertinent information such as options and the various weights . The weights were broken down into Steer axle, Drive axle , Gross Vehicle Weight, and Payload. Both the Weight Ratings and Actual Weights were included on the fact sheet.
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My Tundra has a little sticker on the driver door jamb reducing the GVWR by 44# for options added. My turck weighs 5700# with me @180 and a full tank of gas, giving a remaining 1200# to my 6900 GVWR. Put dw and some stuff in the truck and and we have 900# remaining.
Tongue adds another 720# so we have less than 200# left over. If you have 4wd you just lost another 200#

It gets me that Jayco advertises its lite weight 5ers for 1/2 ton trucks. The pin weight will probably exceed most 1/2 tons by at least 500# No problem with the 16000# GCVWR, big problem with the GVWR!
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I've noted this before on the forum, I too was very surprised to learn my 1/2 ton 2011 Silverado, with a GVWR of 7000 lbs., weighed 6620 lbs with me, a passenger, full tank of gas and NOTHING in the bed. Putting 975 lbs tongue weight of our TT put the truck over capacity by 600 lbs, not counting any other stuff in the truck bed. Hence my decision to trade for a 3/4 ton, which I have just finished putting 5500 miles on towing our trailer to the Pacific Ocean and back since Aug. 8. Going over multiple mountain passes certainly made me happy to have upgraded to the 3/4 ton. ... AND, if I were to be making this kind of trip regularly, the diesel engine would be the way to go!
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Marketing as its best I guess? I am going to rectify the situation by going to a 2013 1 ton diesel and not worry about payload issues. Looking at the jayco eagle 5ers now.....seem to be nice for the price.
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Your truck weight is one figure, trailer another

Your truck weight is gvwr... You have sticker inside drivers door panel. If you load up with people, tiny bit of cargo, you will come to your manufactures limit. Don't forget to allow tongue weight of trailer when connected. You can find that from trailer manufacturer. Now my 2013 F150 super crew shortbed with v6 ecoboost with weight distributing hitch can legally pull a 11,500 pound trailer with up to 1,100 pounds of tongue weight. Just give vin number to a dealer of your choice to look up your towing capabilities . I bought and can tow legally a 27' whitehawk 27DSRL. Just get accurate info and buy your new TT. Mine has more power than it needs to pull. Just don't look at the gas gauge. LoL. Just remember, not that you will have to worry , but CDL LICENSE is required if you tow greater than ( don't quote me ) 12,500.
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