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Old 08-31-2013, 09:23 PM   #1
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Weighed my 2013 Ram today....

Decided to hit the Cat scale before going to the dealer to (hopefully) pick out our camper.....I was so shocked at what the CAT scale said, we came home from the RV dealer with nothing! 2013 Ram Laramie Crew Cab 4x4. Me, wife, and 2 year old and 6 year old sons.....6380lbs....3580 steer and 2800 drive!!!! Seeing as how the truck only has a GVW of 6800lbs, apparently I cant tow anything larger than a lawn mower trailer

I was so flustered by these weights (I thought it would be much, much lower), I obviously couldnt pull the trigger on the 2014 whitehawk 28dsbh we wanted. As such, we started looking at bigger trailers and fifth wheels (which seem to be much more solidly built). Looks like we will be selling our Ram and going with a 3/4 ton diesel. It guess it goes to show how important it is to hit a scale....and I doubt I will buy another RAM truck again (love the truck, but it is obviously grossly overweight coupled with a horribly low payload capacity)
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Old 08-31-2013, 10:14 PM   #2
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It's ironic that you used the" lawnmower" as an example for so little payload available. A few months ago someone posted the same complaint "SOME ADVISE FOR A NEWBIE" about there Ram 1500. As it turned out he bought it used and didn't know the previous owner left four bags of sand in the bed for winter driving. He also thought he wouldn't be able to carry more than a" lawnmower". I hope it's just an error somewhere.
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No errors I'm afraid. I had at most 40lbs in the bed and the family in the truck. Nothing else. Sad state of affairs.
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:30 PM   #4
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Heard a simular story from an F150 owner recently. Trucks are so loaded these days they are getting seriously heavy and base gross weights aren't keeping up.
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:18 AM   #5
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Ouch! My 2500 came in at 6460 lbs with all our stuff in it, just 80 lbs more.......
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Old 09-01-2013, 07:14 AM   #6
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Very smart of you to do your CAT scale weights before you got into a TT that you couldn't safely tow.
I know it has to be aggrevating, but a much better place to be knowing you numbers.

After taking a delay to regroup, I am sure you will end up with a set up you will be much happier with.

Great job protecting your family and doing your homework.

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Old 09-01-2013, 07:51 AM   #7
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Decided to hit the Cat scale before going to the dealer to (hopefully) pick out our camper.....I was so shocked at what the CAT scale said, we came home from the RV dealer with nothing! 2013 Ram Laramie Crew Cab 4x4. Me, wife, and 2 year old and 6 year old sons.....6380lbs....3580 steer and 2800 drive!!!! Seeing as how the truck only has a GVW of 6800lbs, apparently I cant tow anything larger than a lawn mower trailer

I was so flustered by these weights (I thought it would be much, much lower), I obviously couldnt pull the trigger on the 2014 whitehawk 28dsbh we wanted. As such, we started looking at bigger trailers and fifth wheels (which seem to be much more solidly built). Looks like we will be selling our Ram and going with a 3/4 ton diesel. It guess it goes to show how important it is to hit a scale....and I doubt I will buy another RAM truck again (love the truck, but it is obviously grossly overweight coupled with a horribly low payload capacity)
Shouldn't you be looking at the GCWR rather than the GVWR?
Answer: Yes
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Old 09-01-2013, 08:08 AM   #8
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Shouldn't you be looking at the GCWR rather than the GVWR?
Answer: Yes
I am no expert, but I agree with this........do those weights not mean that you have around 500lb's of payload weight that you can put in the box (in front of the axle so not to add to the tongue weight) and depending on the axle you have in the truck somewhere from say 7-9000lbs to hit the GCWR (Gross Combined Weight Rating - Truck & Trailer) which is at a max of around 16,000lb depending on model and options.

I have a 2012, GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating - Total weight of Truck with options, passengers and payload) is 6350lbs, with 14,000lb GVWR which means 8000lbs of trailer capacity. This chart is one of the lowest I have seen, the dodge website says I can have up to 10,050lbs with my setup.

I have attached a file showing the information.

Also check this out:

http://www.propickupmag.com/files/20...ide-Sheet1.pdf

I could not attach this file for some reason.
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check this other attached file out that I took from the RAM website...........remember I would not take these values as gospel, just a guide...........and you 100% did the right thing in getting weighed at the CAT scale.
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OK, perhaps I am a bit confused then. I weighed in (full of fuel, with entire family and a few small things in the bed) at 6380..by the way, RAM specs show my laramie to be about 5555lbs...I only have a soft tonneau cover on it along with step bars...nothing else add. The trucks GVWR is 6800. Do I not only have 420lbs of payload left? Doesn't the tongue weight of any trailer add to my payload? My axles are rated at 3800lbs each (which I dont understand as both axles added together would be 7600, yet GVWR is 6800....).

My CGVWR is 14k according to Ram...I understand taking 14k - 6380 = 7620lbs left for trailer weight, but a loaded, ready to camp trailer weighing in at say 7000lbs (which is what I would guess a 28dsbh to come in at for us) = 910 - 1050lbs of tongue weight...if my payload is over by that much, it really doesnt matter if I am ok on the GCVWR does it? Or am I missing something obvious????
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