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Old 01-30-2012, 10:45 PM   #1
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What I've learned about towing (thanks JOF)

For the past week I have been researching my TV and TT towing capacities. What I've learned I can't believe I didn't research two years ago when I started camping with my family. I felt like I was within my load range for my TV, I just didn't know what I had.
The most important thing I learned is you have to know your equipment. The second most important thing I learned is you are restrained by the piece of equipment that has the lowest tow rating. For me, it is the GCWR of the TV and the WD hitch round bars tongue weight rating. Here is a breakdown of my tow capacity per piece of equipment (all are based on using a weight distributing hitch).

Valley WD hitch: 1200 lbs max tongue weight, 12000 lbs max trailer weight
V-5 Talon hitch on TV: 1500 lbs max tongue weight, 12000 lbs max trailer weight
03 Chevy 1500HD: 1500 lbs max tongue weight, 10200 lbs max trailer weight, 5506 curb weight, 3094 max payload, 8600 GVWR, 14000 max GCWR.
10 Jayco 25BHS: 800 lbs tongue weight (using bathroom scale method), 6000 lbs dry weight (propane and battery attached), 8180 GVWR.

Using educated estimates, I have determined my TV weighs about 6500 lbs loaded, and my TT weighs about 7500 lbs loaded. My tongue weight is 1000 lbs or less (probably more like 900 lbs).

Therefore I feel I am in a good range for my tongue weight on all equipment, and the weight of the TT is under recommended range for all equipment as well. The only grey area I see is the GCWR for my TV (14000 lbs) My estimate of TV weight + TT weight is right at 14000 lbs. That is not over, but certainly does not leave any room for a safety factor.

Hopefully, this posting will inspire others who are perhaps in the same situation as me (thought their truck was up to the task of pulling their trailer but didn't really have the numbers all figured out) to take the time to research everything they need to know to stay safe. This forum got me interested in doing the research.
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Old 01-31-2012, 06:11 AM   #2
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We had a 2003 GMC 1500HD before buying our current Chevy DuraMax, it was a great Tow Vehicle.
At the time we had a 26 Foot Sunnybrook TT which was approx the same weight ar your trailer.
We pulled the Sunnybrook all over the country with our 1500HD, great combination, great truck, never had any problems.
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eatmorebacon - now all you have left is to head for the nearest CAT scales and weigh all the axles. that will tell you how well you estimated. Just thinking
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM   #4
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Eatmorebacon,

Just knowing what the different specified weight limits mean, dry versus loaded weights, and how they relate to your specific TV/TT combination can in itself be extremely useful, as you found out.

As mentioned, a trip to the CAT scale can provide specific weight data and may confirm that you have additional weight wiggle room under your 14,000lb GCVWR then you estimated.

Even if you are at your GCVWR and within the remaining weight limits, IMO your TV should tow your TT just fine.

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ps: Keep an eye on the GM OEM receiver for any pin box flexing when you engage the WDH spring bars, flexing can compromise consistent weight distribution.
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Now, if your WD setup is transfering the right amount of weight of the front axle to return it to the specs in your TV owner's manual, you're in good shape.
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eatmorebacon - now all you have left is to head for the nearest CAT scales and weigh all the axles. that will tell you how well you estimated. Just thinking
I couldn't agree more, (I was) and you will probably be VERY suprised in the what the scale tells you.
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thanks everyone. I do plan to make sure my WD hitch is set up correctly. I have some research on how to check that as well. I will also try to make it to a scale soon.

Leroy, surprised that I have overestimated, or the other way?

Rustic, is this a prob with the v-5 Talon GM OEM? Inferior product? So far everything looks straight and tight, but i will watch next time I attach it to spring bars. thx.
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snip..... Rustic, is this a prob with the v-5 Talon GM OEM? Inferior product? ....snip
Eatmorebacon,

Well, in cases where heavy tongue weights (1,200lbs plus) are used the GM OEM receivers (2000 thru early 2007) can be a little problematic. A google search on "GM Hitch Problems" will provide you with some interesting reading material.

Also, here is a thread that may give you a little insight as well: https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthrea...eceiver&page=3

If you have any additional questions after reviewing the reference material, please post back.

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