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Old 10-26-2018, 08:59 AM   #41
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2016 Northpoint 377RLBH FW

* Scaled Pin Weight 3620. 15,440 scaled weight and 16,500 lbs GVWR

* CAT Scale

* Mopar "puck" system 25k

* Loading is relatively full but not packed - we live in it FT

* 2 gray and 1 black tank empty, no generator, 3 - 30Lb full tanks.
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Old 10-26-2018, 10:53 AM   #42
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* Jayco Model & Year: X19H 2011


* Scaled Tongue Weight or Pin Weight (and scaled gross weight if available).
TW: 680 lbs
GTW: 4580 lbs
GCVW: 9980 lbs

* Scale Method (CAT Scale, Sherline Scale, Bathroom Scale).
CAT Scale, 3-pass process.

* Brand/Model Hitch.
Husky 21996 Round Bar (800 lb) w. sway control

* Personal Loading Habits (conservative, moderate, heavy).
Moderate to heavy - start of a 2 week trip.

* Added Loading conditions (full fresh water tank, Dual batteries, etc.).
No water in tanks, 2*5gal propane at ~3/4, 2 bikes on A-frame carrier.
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Old 10-26-2018, 11:08 AM   #43
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Me tongue weight is darn heavy. Me used the nambarc scale, there is none more reliable.
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Old 01-06-2019, 11:05 AM   #44
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1034 lbs for 2019 Jayflight 29rks moderatly loaded
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1034 lbs for 2019 Jayflight 29rks moderatly loaded


jayflight 2019 29RKS

Equalizer 4 10000/1000 wdh

trailer weight : on axle 6666 lbs on the tongue 1034 ( 2 different scale pad at once

GCWR 13882
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920lbs loaded up with full water heater and no bikes on back. 2X 30lb propane tanks and 2X 6V batteries on tongue, fresh tanks empty. With empty water heater and bikes, likely under 900. Using 7 washers in my Equalizer hitch head with 100% front axle load return.
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Old 01-08-2019, 02:25 PM   #47
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* 2018 Eagle HT 28.5RSTS

* 2015 Ram 2500 Quad Cab 4x4 6.4 Hemi 6'4" box

* CAT Scaled Truck Gross no RV: 8,100

* CAT Scaled Truck Steer Axle no 5th Wheel: 4,340

* CAT Scaled Truck Drive Axle no 5th Wheel: 3,760


* CAT Scaled Truck Gross w/5th Wheel: 18,740

* CAT Scaled Truck Steer axle w/5th Wheel: 4,340

* CAT Scaled Truck Drive Axle w/5th Wheel: 5,860


* CAT Scaled Gross 5th Wheel 5th Wheel: 10,640

* CAT Scaled 5th Wheel Rear Axle: 8,540

* CAT Scaled 5th Wheel Pin Weight: 2,100


* Curt A16 hitch on rails with Curt custom wedge for Revolution pin box

* Personal Loading Habits: Heavy...I need to fish and do repairs!
In the truck box right behind the cab I have a Yamaha 3000ISE generator (appx. 130 lbs), a pancake air compressor (appx. 30 lbs) and tools that weigh about 50 lbs.) In the RV basement I have fishing gear, RV gear and tools that probably weigh about another 150-200 lbs.

* Added Loading conditions: when weighed I had no water on board and 2 12V batteries. I was the driver at 200 lbs with no passenger.
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:55 PM   #48
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* 2018 Eagle HT 28.5RSTS

* 2015 Ram 2500 Quad Cab 4x4 6.4 Hemi 6'4" box

* CAT Scaled Truck Gross no RV: 8,100

* CAT Scaled Truck Steer Axle no 5th Wheel: 4,340

* CAT Scaled Truck Drive Axle no 5th Wheel: 3,760


* CAT Scaled Truck Gross w/5th Wheel: 18,740

* CAT Scaled Truck Steer axle w/5th Wheel: 4,340

* CAT Scaled Truck Drive Axle w/5th Wheel: 5,860


* CAT Scaled Gross 5th Wheel 5th Wheel: 10,640

* CAT Scaled 5th Wheel Rear Axle: 8,540

* CAT Scaled 5th Wheel Pin Weight: 2,100


* Curt A16 hitch on rails with Curt custom wedge for Revolution pin box

* Personal Loading Habits: Heavy...I need to fish and do repairs!
In the truck box right behind the cab I have a Yamaha 3000ISE generator (appx. 130 lbs), a pancake air compressor (appx. 30 lbs) and tools that weigh about 50 lbs.) In the RV basement I have fishing gear, RV gear and tools that probably weigh about another 150-200 lbs.

* Added Loading conditions: when weighed I had no water on board and 2 12V batteries. I was the driver at 200 lbs with no passenger.
Is it common to see with a fifth wheel no change on the front axle loaded or not on the TV ?
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That was the first thing I noticed too and forgot to mention it in my posting. I really don't know but I did notice that the pin sits very close to right over the axle so maybe it isn't that surprising.

I am going to go back through all the postings in this thread and see if anyone else posted axle weights - maybe I have 'one of a kind.'
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:13 PM   #50
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* 2019 Jayco White Hawk 29BH

* Scaled Tongue Weight 1020 lbs and 8500 lbs gross weight

* CAT Scale using Weight My Truck App, 3 passes

* Blue Ox SwayPro with 2K bars (Swapping out for 1500 bars)

* Loading habits are on the heavy side but we just moved in this camper.

* 5 gals of fresh and 2-4 gals of Black, 1 battery and 2 30Lb full tanks.
I am thinking about getting a 29BH (moving up from a White Hawk 27DSRL). Published tongue weight is 730 or so I think. I have an Equalizer E2 WDH rated at 1000/10,000. Would I be OK with this? What all is affecting the TW other that propane tanks, water, etc?
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Old 02-09-2019, 10:12 PM   #51
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snip..... I have an Equalizer E2 WDH rated at 1000/10,000. Would I be OK with this? What all is affecting the TW other that propane tanks, water, etc?
The recommended "loaded" tongue weight for a 29BH (35ft. long, 8,500lb GVWR) would be in the 13% to 15% range of the TT's gross loaded weight. A TT's gross loaded weight is dependent on one's personal cargo loading requirements/habits. IMO a 1,200lb rated WDH would better address potential loaded tongue weight range of the 29BH. Your present 1,000lb rated WDH will work, but you will have to confirm your typical loading requirement. Average 29BH "as shipped" UVW's are around 7,300lbs (yellow sticker).

CAT scale how-to: https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f...v-tt-3871.html

Feel free to start a new dedicated thread (better JOF visibility/replies) if you have additional WDH, weight, towing, etc., questions about the 29BH or your TV. This thread primarily focuses on loaded "scaled" tongue & pin weights.

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Thanks Bob, appreciate the feedback.
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Old 03-22-2019, 07:56 PM   #53
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Eagle HT 29.5 FBDS Scaled Weight

Overall Total Weight (Truck & Trailer on the scale) 18,340 lb

Truck Only (unhooked from camper W/34 gal fuel) 7,650 lb

Camper Axles (hitched with Truck off the scale) 8,600 lb

Camper Total Weight (calculated) 10,690 lb

Pin Weight (Calculated) 2,090 lb

This is the weight of my rig with 2 full propane bottles, 1 battery, and all my "stuff". I carry pretty much everything I think I need and a little bit more. I did not have my twin Honda 2000I generators on that trip. The combined generator weight is 94 lbs. Hope this helps someone along the way.
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Is it common to see with a fifth wheel no change on the front axle loaded or not on the TV ?
Yes its common to have no change to your front axle. The main thing you dont want to see the that front axle weight go down with the trailer. My 2017 GMC crew cab long bed with the NP 377rlbh the front axle stays the same hooked up or unhooked. My 5thwheel is adjustable and it all the way forward so it sits a few inches forward of the back axle. Even with the 5wheel all the way forward the mounting point on the truck is the same. That's why no axle weight change. But anyway it is totally normal. And actually common with a long wheelbase truck.
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2017 RKS, loaded fresh water, empty holding, packed with all but food items, 1220 tongue weight
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How long is an RKS?
The published length of a 2017 29RKS is 33' - 9", and same for a 2019 model.

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So I weight my rig the other day with about a 3rd of a tank of water (2 40 gallon tanks). Here are the weights in the order I took them.

So I have a 2018 Jayflight 32BHDS, that is moderately loaded. A Reese SteadiFlex 1400 hitch. I used a CAT scale. Estimated about 25 gallons of water. My diesel tank was near full.

1st Weight truck and trailer with WDH bars attached
Steer axle: 4340
Drive axle: 4580
Trailer axle: 7900
Total: 16820

2nd Weight truck and trailer without WDH bars attached (in the bed of the truck)
Steer axle: 3980
Drive axle: 5120
Trailer axle: 7740
Total: 16840

3rd Weight truck only with hitch still on and WDH bars in the bed
Steer axle: 4540
Drive axle: 3160
Total: 7700

Calculated hitch weight: 1400
Calculated trailer weight: 9120

Now my F250 has the 6.0 diesel with the camper package for uprated springs. However the door sticker GVWR is still only 8800 (same as without the package). I am over the GVWR of the truck without my wife or kid in the truck. However I am under on both that axles (by a long way). I also have uprated brakes on my truck from PowerStop (excellent brakes btw for anyone in the market). I should take a picture of the rear springs because with the WDH bars attached I am not even on my helper springs in the rear.

Here is a picture of me on my way to the scales. Note in this picture my fat arse is not in the truck so I am actually about 200 pounds from being overloaded.

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Great information, and is a perfect example highlighting a not uncommon "actual" loaded tongue weight condition for a 32BHDS.

It's an eye opener when the "published" dry tongue weight is 895lbs, but your scaled loaded tongue weight is 1,400lbs.

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2016 Northpoint 377RLBH FW

* Scaled Pin Weight 3620. 15,440 scaled weight and 16,500 lbs GVWR

* CAT Scale

* Mopar "puck" system 25k

* Loading is relatively full but not packed - we live in it FT

* 2 gray and 1 black tank empty, no generator, 3 - 30Lb full tanks.
Your GVRW should be under 16,000. I would say your packed at 16,500.
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