What's Your "Scaled" Tongue/Pin Weight?

[TnHiker]

Originally Posted by mdcamping

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NB1J0ZQ...ting%20Hitches

This one is 100LBS, maybe I'll figure closer to 100LBS

Mike

A good bathroom scale will give you a very accurate weight on your WDH. Happy Camping, God Bless.

[Stan&Sharon]

If your looking to keep the weight down, the Andersen (approx 50 pounds total) should be considered. See it at Amazon.

[AKRUEBBE]

4,080 lbs.

[mdcamping]

2017 Jayco Jayflight 24 RBS, 22 Ford F-150 Trailer Tow & Heavy Duty payload Pkg

loaded trailer weight 6720 cat scale

loaded Tongue weight 1020 cat & sherline tongue scale

TV weight 7120 (GVWR 7850)

Steer 3120 (Front GAWR 3750)

Drive 4000 (Rear GAWR 4800)

2 batteries, 2-30 propane tanks. Trailer 1/3 to 1/2 full water

Equalizer 4 Pt Sway Hitch, 1200 spring bars

Truck & Trailer over 90% loaded

Mike

[Marcm157]

2022 33RBTS - Empty Tanks - 2 -Full Propane and a single Group 24 Lead Acid Battery loaded for camping;

1250 pounds as weighed by my Shurline scale.

Fresh water tanks are very near the rear of the trailer, well behind the axles. I am going to reweigh with water to see what that does to my TW.

Haven't brought this one to the actual scales yet but will post those weights as soon as I do.

[DonBr]

166FBS, Full 60 lbs propane, no batteries on tongue, 2 100AH lithiums and 2000 watt inverter in passthrough, heavier than stock mattress up front, chain portion of Andersen attached but not ball which is on TV, loaded for travel.

660 lbs on Sherline scale.

[linedriver]

Originally Posted by Rustic Eagle

Thought I would start a "scaled" Tongue Weight/Pin Weight thread since JOF Members are frequently asking for actual 'real world' feedback on a particular Jayco model's scaled loaded Tongue Weight or Pin Weight.

Please provide "SCALED" weight only....., no guessing!

Please provide the following information or any other data that may be relevant to your Pop-Up, HTT, TT, FW, TH, etc.:

* Jayco Model & Year (BOLD type).

* Scaled Tongue Weight or Pin Weight (and scaled gross weight if available).

* Scale Method (CAT Scale, Sherline Scale, Bathroom Scale).

* Brand/Model Hitch.

* Personal Loading Habits (conservative, moderate, heavy).

* Added Loading conditions (full fresh water tank, Dual batteries, etc.).

Bob

2022 JAY FEATHER 24RL

Tongue weight 718 sherline scale

Gross trailer weight 5658 scaled

10,000 lb Reese steadi flex

Moderate loading

[codegaard]

2022 Jay Flight 28BHS

1,150 TW

7900 GVW

Grain scale

Recurve R3 1200

60 lbs LP

2 GC-2 Batteries

5-10 gal FW

Mats, chairs, cords, and hoses in passthrough

[Falcon67]

2021 F-150 3.5 EcoBoost
Steer Axle - 3040
Drive Axle - 2080
Gross - 5120
Tongue - 760

With Keystone 220 RD, 54 gallons water, 40lb propane, outfitted for travel

Steer Axle - 2880
Drive Axle - 3000
Trailer Axles - 4620
Gross 10,500.

2022 F-350 DRW 7.3L DRW
Steer - 4080
Drive - 3440
Gross - 7510

2016 Continental Cargo extra height 34' box race trailer (8580 lbs as delivered)

W/Trailer loaded - 67 Falcon race car, tool box, quads, generator, 30 gallons fresh water, two people, two chihuahuas, fuel jugs, misc
Steer - 3620
Drive - 6440
Trailer - 11400
Gross - 21460
Tongue - 2540

F-150 w/2022 Jayco 212QB: TBA (ain't got it yet)

[Jerry713]

Originally Posted by Marcm157

2022 33RBTS - Empty Tanks - 2 -Full Propane and a single Group 24 Lead Acid Battery loaded for camping;

1250 pounds as weighed by my Shurline scale.

Fresh water tanks are very near the rear of the trailer, well behind the axles. I am going to reweigh with water to see what that does to my TW.

Haven't brought this one to the actual scales yet but will post those weights as soon as I do.

Same camper and I’m at 1350 using my Weigh Safe weight distribution hitch but I have some items in the front storage. Jayco says tongue weight is 1045. I’m at about 10,500 when we travel all holding tanks empty. We travel pretty heavy.

[Teroy]

Originally Posted by Rustic Eagle

Thought I would start a "scaled" Tongue Weight/Pin Weight thread since JOF Members are frequently asking for actual 'real world' feedback on a particular Jayco model's scaled loaded Tongue Weight or Pin Weight.

Please provide "SCALED" weight only....., no guessing!

Please provide the following information or any other data that may be relevant to your Pop-Up, HTT, TT, FW, TH, etc.:

* Jayco Model & Year (BOLD type).

* Scaled Tongue Weight or Pin Weight (and scaled gross weight if available).

* Scale Method (CAT Scale, Sherline Scale, Bathroom Scale).

* Brand/Model Hitch.

* Personal Loading Habits (conservative, moderate, heavy).

* Added Loading conditions (full fresh water tank, Dual batteries, etc.).

Bob

2003 GMC Sierra 2500HD Duramax
Front: 1890 kg Back: 1480 kg
4167 lbs. 3263 lbs.

C/W 2018 Jayco Eagle HT 28.5 rsts
Commercial Scaled
Front: 1880 kg Back: 2260 kg Trailer: 3790 kg
4165 lbs 4982 lbs 8356 lbs
Hitch Weight: 1719 lbs.

[Racinforthefinish]

2018 Jayco White Hawk 23MRB
2014 Toyota Tundra 46 gallon gas tank
CAT Scale
truck steer 3360
drive 2880 truck gross 6240
trailer attached
steer 3500
drive 3720
gross 13260
trailer loaded weight 7,020 with max loaded weight of 7250 with 3500 lb axles
on scales with bars not attached steer 3240 drive 4120 trailer axles 5900
tongue weight 1120 with eaz-lift elite 10,000 lb distribution hitch and two sway bars
loaded with about 52 gallons of water and 60 lbs propane and two 6 volt batteries
This is loaded and ready to travel although when traveling I usually only travel with 1/3 tank of water . Propane on, livin large!

[jpgale]

I got to weight my new trailer recently, truck was full of diesel and almost full of def.

2022 Jayco Eagle 355MBQS - Converted the pin box to a Gooseneck Connect Pin Box
2019 Ford F350 CCLB SRW 6.7 powerstroke

No trailer
Front axle 5100
Rear axle 3520
Gross 8620

With trailer
Front axle 5160
Rear axle 6400
Trailer axle 11180
Gross 22740

Pin Weight 2940
Trailer Weight 14120

So on my own I am 60 pounds over my gvwr (I am personally at least 140 pounds over weight so I can gain that back if I work harder ), with my family I will most likely be about 300 over. But I will be under the axles, tires, towing etc, and honestly the truck does not feel overweight at all, she tows like a dream.

[Lake Huron]

I recently pulled our trailer out of storage and got the opportunity to use a certified scale at my camping buddy's place of employment.
2015 Silverado 3500 LTZ Crew Long bed DRW 4x4, B&W Turnover and Companion, Trifecta Tonneau Cover, WeatherTech mud flaps up front and Dura Flap on the back, Finned AAM rear diff cover, double deep trans pan which adds another gallon of trans fluid, remote bypass oil filter system that adds another 3qts of engine oil and the truck was full right to the top with fuel AND DEF. Truck weight is without me in it.

Trailer is a 2017 Northpoint 375 and was totally empty of belongings. It did have full propane bottles, a pair of 6v batteries and one 12v battery, hot water tank was empty but it was still winterized with 8 gallons of pink pop in the lines and tanks. A few years ago I did convert it from drum to electric/hydraulic disc brakes.

Here's my actual weights;

Truck 8520
Trailer 14,600
Pin 3040
Truck and trailer connected and on the scale 23,120

What I found a little interesting was I scaled my previous truck, 2011 Silverado 3500, same exact truck as my 15 and set up with the same options, cover, hitch, etc and ithe 11 was 460# lighter.

[extrachrispy]

Originally Posted by jpgale

I got to weight my new trailer recently, truck was full of diesel and almost full of def.

2022 Jayco Eagle 355MBQS - Converted the pin box to a Gooseneck Connect Pin Box
2019 Ford F350 CCLB SRW 6.7 powerstroke

[...snip...]

With trailer
Front axle 5160
Rear axle 6400
Trailer axle 11180
Gross 22740

Pin Weight 2940
Trailer Weight 14120

So on my own I am 60 pounds over my gvwr (I am personally at least 140 pounds over weight so I can gain that back if I work harder ), with my family I will most likely be about 300 over. But I will be under the axles, tires, towing etc, and honestly the truck does not feel overweight at all, she tows like a dream.

Weird: GCWR on a 4x2 2019 F350 SRW CCLB is anywhere from 22,600 (with the 10,000lb GVWR package, option 68D) with 16" wheels, up to 28,700 with 17" wheels. Same for 4x4. For 5'ers and goosenecks, the 4x2 is rated to tow up to 14,800 with 16" wheels or up to 20,600 with 17" wheels. 4x4 rating is 13,600 with 16" wheels and 20,600 with 17" wheels. Your pin weight is also within your truck's payload capacity. How much stuff, besides yourself, is in your truck?

See https://letstowthat.com/ford-f-350-towing-capacities/

[jpgale]

Originally Posted by extrachrispy

Weird: GCWR on a 4x2 2019 F350 SRW CCLB is anywhere from 22,600 (with the 10,000lb GVWR package, option 68D) with 16" wheels, up to 28,700 with 17" wheels. Same for 4x4. For 5'ers and goosenecks, the 4x2 is rated to tow up to 14,800 with 16" wheels or up to 20,600 with 17" wheels. 4x4 rating is 13,600 with 16" wheels and 20,600 with 17" wheels. Your pin weight is also within your truck's payload capacity. How much stuff, besides yourself, is in your truck?

See https://letstowthat.com/ford-f-350-towing-capacities/

My door sticker says my GVWR is 11500 and my front and rear axle total 11560, the rest of the limits I am way under.

[Edutron]

I quit keeping track of weight since my 2020 GMC 3500 quad cab long bed dually will haul anything you throw at it and that includes an auxiliary 100 gallon diesel transfer tank (700 lbs) and a 50 gallon gas tank (300 lbs) in the bed. In fact I don't even keep track of gross weight since I have a CDL! I also use a B&W 5th wheel plate.
However, the most important thing I do keep track of is TIRE PRESSURE AND TPMS SENSORS WORKING including the TPMS sensors on my flat bed towed behind my coach (Pinnacle) hauling a UTV.

[Phoenix PAL]

Originally Posted by Edutron

I quit keeping track of weight since my 2020 GMC 3500 quad cab long bed dually will haul anything you throw at it and that includes an auxiliary 100 gallon diesel transfer tank (700 lbs) and a 50 gallon gas tank (300 lbs) in the bed. In fact I don't even keep track of gross weight since I have a CDL! I also use a B&W 5th wheel plate.
However, the most important thing I do keep track of is TIRE PRESSURE AND TPMS SENSORS WORKING including the TPMS sensors on my flat bed towed behind my coach (Pinnacle) hauling a UTV.

Our TV Armada TPMS hasn't worked in years. Light's always on. Too many trips down the boat ramp into salt water is my guess. The last time I had new Michelins mounted at Costco, they said they'd have to drill them out. I'm thinking that when these wear out, I'll deflate each one myself and do it.
I do monitor my tire pressure though... like before we had tpms ;-)

[Rock]

Why would u ever even back a tire into salt water? Your brakes gotta love that.

[RDTC]

Truck 2021 F350, Trailer 2021 32RLTS Pinnacle

Truck without trailer.
- Front axle 5160
- Rear axle 3820
- Total 8980, Ford GVWR 12,400

With Pinnacle:
Ford front axle 5260
Ford rear axle 7500
Pinnacle axles 13,040
Total package weight 25,800

Over weight a few hundred pounds on the truck rear axle. When weighed, truck had full factory tank and 40 gallons in bed aux tank. Have a Curt 24k slider hitch and aluminium roll up bed cover. Trailer has heavy-duty tires 245/70/19.5, generator, 3 200 AH batteries, and no washer/dryer.