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Old 05-17-2012, 08:34 AM   #1
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17Z Cracks in Sidewall

Hey folks we just purchased a 17Z last June new and I was pulling it out today and noticed that one of the tires already has cracks in the sidewall just after one year of storage inside. They may be superficial but only one tire had cracks and the other side was fine. Would this defect be covered by the Jayco warranty or the tire company warranty?

The pressure is/was good in the tires and as per the tire was 50lbs cold all winter so I am not sure why one side would crack and the other is fine. I think it is a tire defect.

The spare looks fine as well.

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I would check with the tt dealer, get the problem registered with them then let them handle unless they say different. They could call the local tire dealer for you. Larry
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Old 05-17-2012, 02:54 PM   #3
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My 17Z had bad tires. All 3 were dry rotted in a little over a year. I have covers on the tires when not towing. Jayco replaced them for me.
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:09 AM   #4
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So are trailer tires made out of different compounds than passenger tires? The tires on my truck are over one year old and do not show signs of cracking.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:24 AM   #5
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mcfarmall--- You bring up a good point, maybe, just maybe the tt tires are made in China AND JUST MAYBE the Chinese use cheaper stuff to make thier products-- Now don't get me wrong, I'm not against world trade but those a--holes are taking us for all we're worth which in a few years won't be worth much so if we can hang on WE WIN pardon my rant but buy US , CANADIAN when ever you can. Larry
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:51 PM   #6
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What is a good replacement tires for our hybrid trailers? I think the oem tires are quite cheap and stiff.
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:55 PM   #7
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What is a good replacement tires for our hybrid trailers? I think the oem tires are quite cheap and stiff.
Maxxis makes good trailer tires. They are available from Discount Tire.
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:23 PM   #8
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My 2010 17Z had cracked tires on the lot. The dealer had them replaced before the aperwork was done. They were Duro brand and looked 10 years old!
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:54 PM   #9
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My trailer is a year old and one tire has cracks. Same with my neighbors trailer. We both have 17z.
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Sorry, with some of the 'techy mods' "off duty" right now, the best I can offer is this url which shows how to "read" the tires. I learned from tire-techie's here how new owners can "read" when their tires were actually made compared to the install date. When we bought our tt new, our tires fell within the realm of our purchase date. Hope this helps
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OK guys RV tires can go bad faster because they are not used as much... Tires rolling make the "lubricants" inside the tire move more and keeps the tire from going bad.. if you let your truck sit for 6 months at a time you would see the same thing on it...
this is just one more reason to USE THE RV MORE...
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Tires rolling make the "lubricants" inside the tire move more and keeps the tire from going bad.. if you let your truck sit for 6 months at a time you would see the same thing on it...
this is just one more reason to USE THE RV MORE...
And along with that... several of our tire techie members also suggested that if your tt will not be moved for more than a couple of months, to 'drop' the hitch onto the ball of your tv, pull tt forward/back a few inches and let it come to rest in a a spot even a few inches where it originally did. We keep our tires covered, but also used this little 'trick' a couple of times when it wasn't actually convienient to fully hook up and drive it around the block a few times. Hope this helps some
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:36 AM   #13
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The tires on my 5er was all ready 2 years old when I bought it new. I replaced mine before I had problems with LT tires. I wont buy the china tires. Like its already been said buy the Maxxis.
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OK guys RV tires can go bad faster because they are not used as much... Tires rolling make the "lubricants" inside the tire move more and keeps the tire from going bad.. if you let your truck sit for 6 months at a time you would see the same thing on it...
this is just one more reason to USE THE RV MORE...
And some are just junk and prone to cracking. I had a set of Uniroyal tires on my old motorhome for longer than I should have (10 years!) no cracking yet a set of Michelins on my van looked like hell in four years.

I know Michelin tires are good tires but they are prone to premature cracking and I always check the date of manufacture before I buy. The van now has Uniroyals (load E).
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The dealer ended up replacing the offending tire under warranty but I am not holding out much hope in a few years I will pick up a better pair for it. They must be cheap tires, I did check the date on the tire and it was 2011 just like the trailer so they it was just 1 year old. I think it was a defect as the other side was good.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:17 AM   #16
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Hey guys I wanted to revive this tread I did take the trailer in and they replaced the 1 tire under warranty but we just got back from a trip back to the Maritimes and I noticed the other side is just starting to crack a little and the wear pattern is very odd. It is really warn on the outside edges of the tire almost bald. From just 2 seasons that is really poor again I am thinking really cheap tires and I was wondering if anyone else has this issue. I must have checked the tire pressure 100 times before we left and during the trip. Normally outside wear is a sign of under inflation or poor alignment on a car. I didn't know that could be an issue on the trailer. I am thinking if they don't replace it under warranty I am just going to buy some good tires (Carlile sp?) and put them on so I don't have to worry anymore. Jayco should put on decent tires not the super cheap ones.

Heads up to new 17Z owners that you will have to replace the tires in 2 years. We don't put many miles on the trailer at all, last year was under 1,000km and this year will just be over 2,000km.
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I had both tires replace under warranty this past week.

But on the other hand, a guy I worked with said that with single axel trailers you need to be careful that you don't overload them since the axel can bend and you will notice a weird wear on the tires. The axel can handle 3500 pounds with the trailer that leaves very little weight to actually put into the trailer.

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I also had to replace my Duros after a year as one of the tires developed dracks all over the sidewall. The others were fine.

I decided to upgrade the size to 14" and also the rims to aluminum rims. The new tires combine for just over the full RV GVWR. I got Chinese made Goodyear Marathons and have no regrets. Went on a 4000 mile round trip to Canada and they performed perfectly with no signs of any wear. AAMOF even the tire shine stayed essentially on the tire even after 2 weeks on the road through rain and sun.

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Old 08-17-2012, 02:25 PM   #19
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Here is what I am talking about you can see the abnormal wear on the outer parts of the tire. I would think if we bent the axle there would be other symptoms and both sides would be worn. Also if it was bent up or down only one side of the tire would be worn. If the axle shifted then there would be scuffing on both tires. We do not put much in the trailer besides a small table top BBQ the rest is just the usual stuff for camping. No bikes or large heavy items. Plus we travel most of the time with all the tanks empty.

I did notice that the inside of the tire almost looks like it has cupped wear pattern as opposed to just worn down. Makes me think it is an alignment issue but the way the axle is done from the factory I can't see how that could get out of line. I am going to check the bearings tonight just to be sure. I don't want to get a new tire and have the same issue next year.

I had a look at the axle under the trailer and it has a slight bend up in the middle. That seems odd as if it was overloaded the bend would be down. It is supposed be be like that from the factory. Unless we hit something major I am thinking that is what it looks like from the factory because if we could bend the axle up like that then it would have ripped the tank off for the fresh water that is right in front of it.

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Axle bent upwards is consistent with wear on the outer edges. I was under my trailer recently installing Horst probes and don't recall seeing any bend in the axle.
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