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Old 04-07-2015, 07:39 AM   #1
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2011 Jay Feather 19H - Towing with a 2009 Nissan Pathfinder SE V6

Originally posted this Question on RV.NET and they pretty much said "no" to the question. Before I even purchased this TT from the dealership they wouldn't even let me look at it without letting them know what kind of tow vehicle I had.

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Any worries here? Most towing will be 2 hour trips from northern Massachusetts to the White Mountain Region in New Hampshire. Not a ton of large up hill roads, mostly long inclines and 90% of the travel will be highway. Weight Distribution Hitch and Sway bars needed?

Ive seen this exact vehicle towing much larger campers on the highways and parked at camprgrounds.

Any insight is greatly appreciated.

Trailer Specs

Unloaded vehicle weight (lbs.) 3615
Hitch weight (lbs.) 440
Gross vehicle weight (lbs.) 4950
Cargo carrying capacity (lbs.) 1335

Vehicle Specs

MAXIMUM TOWING CAPACITY** 6000 lbs.
MAXIMUM PAYLOAD** 1564 lbs.
GROSS WEIGHT 6000 lbs.
CURB WEIGHT 4446 lbs.
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Old 04-07-2015, 09:56 AM   #2
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We tow an x18d with a 2012 V6 Nissan Pathfinder. I would say my numbers are similar, but you are a bit heavier fully loaded. We tow flawlessly (gas mileage suffers) and have never had a problem. Last year we went to the outer banks from CT and this year I towed all the way to Disney.

I've made the trip to the White Mountains (North Conway area) multiple times and again, no problems.

When I figured all the numbers, I believe that the actual tow capacity of the pathfinder to be around 5000 fully loaded......
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We tow an x18d with a 2012 V6 Nissan Pathfinder. I would say my numbers are similar, but you are a bit heavier fully loaded. We tow flawlessly (gas mileage suffers) and have never had a problem. Last year we went to the outer banks from CT and this year I towed all the way to Disney.

I've made the trip to the White Mountains (North Conway area) multiple times and again, no problems.

When I figured all the numbers, I believe that the actual tow capacity of the pathfinder to be around 5000 fully loaded......
Thanks for the reply?

Do you use any WD hitch, Sway bars and/or the Airlift 1000 with your setup?
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We have a Reese WD and sway control. Works great. No airlift (I bought a system just have not installed it yet).
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Old 04-07-2015, 10:53 AM   #5
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I think you misunderstood the answers on rv.net. It wasn't "no", it was "proceed with caution". You'll be pushing the capacities of that SUV, but I think for what you are doing it will work fine. I've towed close to capacities with 2 different rigs over the years. It sounds like you know what the limitations are and that's really important to know. But I suspect eventually you'll want to do more than those short trips and will be wanting a bigger tow vehicle at some point.

Yes, you will need a W/D hitch. SUVs have soft suspensions. Rear squat is not an issue. My Sierra is down about 1 1/2 inches when everything is connected. Putting a travel trailer on the hitch on will remove weight from your front wheels, thereby reducing steering control. Trust me, it's not fun driving at highway speeds with reduced steering control.

As was pointed out on rv.net air bags will improve your ride quality, but will not put weigh back on the front wheels. There is usually a specification for this in the owners manual, for example, with GM trucks we have to bring the front fender height back to stock when adjusting the WD hitch. I have not use airbags since I towed a small hybrid with a mini-van. Haven't needed them with any of my trucks, but they are nice to have, especially if you regularly have a lot of people in your vehicle or haul a lot in the back. Why not start with a properly setup WD hitch and decide later if you need the airbags?

Also, keep in mind just because someone else is towing a bigger trailer, doesn't mean that the dealer sold them the right size trailer.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:50 PM   #6
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I am in the process of buying my first TT. One thing I don't see in your numbers is your actual vehicle weight. This is a crucial number to see what your actual payload is. That will determine your towing ability. You want to stay in the 10-15% range with tongue weight of the total loaded trailer weight. Here is a handy towing calculator:

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It's listed in vehicle specs - Curb Weight 4,406 lbs - That's what My vehicle with it's standard stock options on a full tank of fuel and allows a payload of roughly 1,500 lbs.

The total GCWR is 11,133 lbs
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It's listed in vehicle specs - Curb Weight 4,406 lbs - That's what My vehicle with it's standard stock options on a full tank of fuel and allows a payload of roughly 1,500 lbs.

The total GCWR is 11,133 lbs
Edit: I am assuming curb weight means without passengers or cargo. You need to add those in and then see how much payload is left for the tongue.
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Edit: I am assuming curb weight means without passengers or cargo. You need to add those in and then see how much payload is left for the tongue.
We made the mistake of not factoring those in when renting trailers a couple of times to see how we liked it. Figured that GCWR-curb weight = trailer amount we could tow. Doesn't work like that and in hindsight we were WAY overloaded.
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allows a payload of roughly 1,500 lbs.

The total GCWR is 11,133 lbs
For grins, look at the weight sticker in your driver's door. It should have the payload listed as determined at the factory. 1500# seems high for an SUV.
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