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Old 04-22-2020, 05:24 PM   #1
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Adding “insulation “ to 16XRB?

Due to the pandemic a dog show we were going to attend has been canceled in May. It has now been rescheduled for November. We are hoping the world is in a better place by then.

Does anyone have any ideas on beefing up the canvas ends for nights possibly in the 40s? We’re just curious what others might have done when camping in colder weather in a hybrid.
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try searching "bunk end covers" lots of info there, see above the gold bar with the search tab. You could also try hybrid + insulate or insulation


I use reflectix a silvery bubble wrap type product in my windows to reflect light and heat and reduce sun fading inside. But I also have used it to reduce heat loss in colder camping nights. I don't have bunk ends but even just using Reflectix in the bunk end windows between the screen and plastic window would save some heat. Or heavier sleeping bags?
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Thanks for your reply! I’ll start doing some searching.
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Will you have electric where your staying?

We camp in our htt, down to the mid 20's most springs and falls. No big deal.

We primarily use a 1500 watt electric heater, and electric mattresses pads. We stay plenty warm. Might turn on the furnace in the morning, to warm up the htt a bit.

I will admit. The outside edge of the bunk is cooler, but I can get roaster out using the electric mattress pads, if they are turned up to high.

I have seen people use popup gizmos or silver tarps on the bunk ends, I have never felt the need.
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The popup gizmos are great for the tent ends in cooler/cold weather and also the hot sunny summer weather. I’ve used them for 7 years now and I’m out for a total of 18-20 weeks a year.
I also have the electric heated mattress pads and use a space heater.
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I hadn’t thought of electric mattress pads. Do you have a brand you can recommend? And yes, we have full hookup where we are staying. Thanks for your reply!
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Thank you! I’m going to look into the pop up ends and electric mattress pads. Do you have a recommendation on mattress pads?
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They came with the Jayco ( mattress pads) I’ll look for a label in a bit and get back
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I do not know which brand I have. Our HTT is still in winter hibernation (state mandated Covid extended leave of absence ). We bought ours from Bed Bath and Beyond. The ones we have fit a standard Queen.
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Here’s the label and the pad is a good 2”thick and has elastic straps on the 4 corners so it stays put. Heat control has a long cord so that’s not a problem. Control goes from 1-6, put it on 6 about 20 min. before I jump in then turn it down to about 2-3 for the night. I cover it with a Queen size fitted sheet and I prefer flannel ( but that’s just me). On top of that I use an open sleeping bag “Big Bertha” ( not my wife).
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We used the pop up gizmos for the first time about a month ago. I was actually worried more about the heat at the time than the cold due to the time of year. The difference was huge! I put one on and one off for testing and I would say a good 15* cooler to the touch.
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Here’s the label and the pad is a good 2”thick and has elastic straps on the 4 corners so it stays put.
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Wow, 2" thick, where do you store it? We only pull ours out, and put it on the mattress when we want it. Folded up it is the size of large blanket.
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Wow, 2" thick, where do you store it? We only pull ours out, and put it on the mattress when we want it. Folded up it is the size of large blanket.
Well, I might be rather lucky on both ends. They fold up rather easily so on the front one (when folded up) I place it between the mattress and the 3 straps while in transit. On the rear one a (as you can see) I have like a little hall way and when folded up I can sorta roll it up and place it above the mattress and the ceiling, it’s not going anywhere.
There’s enough space to push it in all the way to the left then slide it to the right.
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Summer months DW uses a foam pad on front bunk and notice on the lower left I made a 1/2 round step to make it easier for her to get up there. It’s screwed in from behind and I left it a light oak color for visibility at night.
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Summer months DW uses a foam pad on front bunk and notice on the lower left I made a 1/2 round step to make it easier for her to get up there. It’s screwed in from behind and I left it a light oak color for visibility at night.
Looks to fit right in. I like the built in cubbies. That was discontinued on the 2012's, hence I made a top down access version.
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I know im getting off topic but we’re talking about Hybrid TT so hopefully you all understand.
Your all familiar with this corner and it’s empty space so I made a small book shelf for my stuff. When it’s all opened up I’ll lean back and read, have a beer and enjoy the view.
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I used popup gizmos on 2 trailers. Well worth the price, and the ex was a tightwad.

I have slept into the 30's with gizmos and space heater, electric blanket, and was pretty comfortable.
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I have a 2018 X23B and tried to use my PUGs for the first time the weekend before they kicked everyone out. Anyway, trying to get the top edge clipped to the little lip of the rain gutter across the top of the front tent bed was a royal PITA. Then I tried a 2" Velcro strip which held pretty well until I took it down in the morning and the PUG side peeled off and stayed velcro'ed to the strip across the front of the trailer above the bed.

So now that the clips don't work and Velcro doesn't work, how do you guys attach the top edge? Otherwise I have the straps all gathered to s-hooks, so I'm good once I get the top edge fastened.

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I never attacked the top Edge. Only the sides and the end.
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I have a 2018 X23B and tried to use my PUGs for the first time the weekend before they kicked everyone out. Anyway, trying to get the top edge clipped to the little lip of the rain gutter across the top of the front tent bed was a royal PITA. Then I tried a 2" Velcro strip which held pretty well until I took it down in the morning and the PUG side peeled off and stayed velcro'ed to the strip across the front of the trailer above the bed.

So now that the clips don't work and Velcro doesn't work, how do you guys attach the top edge? Otherwise I have the straps all gathered to s-hooks, so I'm good once I get the top edge fastened.
BTW, buy 2 packages of the clips.

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These binder clips have proven to be very successful for me and great for windy conditions on the Pacific Coast.
I wrap the beaded edge over the gutter while standing on my ladder and reaching as far as I can to the center. I use about 6-8 clips just on the gutter ( when in windy conditions on the coast. I keep the bungee string in the gutter the full length and hugging the trailer all the way down with that 1st string.
With the front string that hangs over the front tent end I take it down the front and connect it to the first string under the bunk where they clip together.
I’m 7 years into the pop-up gizmos and thru trial & error this seems to be the best way to do it.
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