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Old 02-13-2014, 04:42 PM   #11
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Thanks for the replies. I was concerned after reading some posts on this forum about the axle on the x17z being questionable. I know the cargo carrying capacity is limited and thought maybe the WDH might be shifting additional weight to the axle that in reality the truck could support. Sometimes I think too much!
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Old 02-13-2014, 09:28 PM   #12
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Owenmae,

We bought a 2012 X17Z which was in "like new" condition here in North Carolina this past November. We paid slightly more than $11,000 including the WDH. The seller also threw in all the little extras he had purchased during the two years he used the trailer. Probably about an additional $300 worth of stuff. My opinion,from the research I did when shopping, is $20K is a very high quote.
Thanx IronButt. We've been to the 3 dealerships here in the NW and the lowest is approx $20K. That's including the $3,077.00 (freight), $895 (dealer prep), $1,600.00 (WA 8.6% tax) and $255 (license fee). We've been looking thru the classifieds for almost a year but can not find anything like the x17Z, at least a later year.

One more thing, what is the trailer hitch height of your x17z? I need to replace my aging ball hitch from my truck.
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:26 AM   #13
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Owenmae,

Not sure of the height except to say that I have the factory installed Dodge Ram 1500 tow package. (17 inch wheels, no lift kit on the truck). The WDH is an Equalizer brand with a 2" ball. The hitch is one solid piece of hardware. I'm also planning to us it (minus the anti sway bars) for towing my boat which is about 1500lbs heavier than the17Z. There is some debate on these forums as to the need for a WDH for the 17Z/pick up truck combo but since it came with the purchase I will use it, mostly for the anti sway function.

Good luck with the 17Z.

BTW..We found our 17Z on Craig's list about 3 hours away from our home. It had been posted about three months before we went to see it. Maybe we just fell in. Anyway...we're now making some mods...installing double 20lb LP tanks instead of the single 30, LED bulbs and a TV/DVD combo. (All the info on these mods I found in these forums) Then we're heading out in the beginning of May for a 2 month road trip from North Carolina to Yosemite and lots of places in New Mexico and Arizona in between.
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I don't use my equalizer hitch anymore...pulls great and never had a problem.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:49 AM   #15
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You should be able to get a 17z out the door on the west coast for about $17,500 depending upon the dealer prep fee and sales tax rate.

My opinion is that you do not need a WDH for a 3,500 lbs. (max) trailer. If it was 5,000 lbs. or more, I would say yes. I have a 2013 17z and have had it up to 70 mph with no sway and I do not use a WDH.

2004 Silverado Crew Cab half ton is the tow vehicle.
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snip....... My opinion is that you do not need a WDH for a 3,500 lbs. (max) trailer.....snip
Depends on a TV's receiver "weight carrying" mode rating. A 3,500lb trailer could have a loaded tongue weight range of 350lbs to 525lbs based on the manufactures 10% - 15% recommendation.

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Old 05-29-2014, 09:54 AM   #17
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20 k for an x17z seems high. I paid 15900 for my x18d brand new and that included the WD hitch setup.
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You should be able to get a 17z out the door on the west coast for about $17,500 depending upon the dealer prep fee and sales tax rate.

My opinion is that you do not need a WDH for a 3,500 lbs. (max) trailer. If it was 5,000 lbs. or more, I would say yes. I have a 2013 17z and have had it up to 70 mph with no sway and I do not use a WDH.

2004 Silverado Crew Cab half ton is the tow vehicle.
The trouble is you don't need it until you need it. Some years back I had to tow my old '03 Kiwi 17a (ancestor of the 17z) home in a rain storm. I hit a slick spot and the back end of my truck slid sideways. The trailer went crazy. It was the scariest road experience of my life. I firmly believe had I not had sway control I would have lost both the truck and trailer that day.

As far as WD, your call I guess, but even with a light tongue weight and a 1/2 ton truck you are taking weight off the front wheels. GM says in the manual that with WD, it should be adjusted so that the front fender height is back to stock.

70 mph with ST tires? 'Nuff said...
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Whether you need a WD hitch depends on the tow vehicle. If you hook up the camper and your back end drops a lot and the front end lifts a lot - you need a WD hitch! I have a 2014 Explorer and I need the WD hitch.
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