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Old 08-18-2015, 02:05 PM   #1
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Brake Feel

On the new X18D, I don't feel like the brakes are "grabbing" hard enough when I engage the brake controller manual lever. I'm comparing to my bosses 5er that could stop the whole rig by themselves. I can barely feel any drag. I asked the dealer about it, and they said that because the brakes are new, they will need to seat and braking will become more noticeable. They also mentioned that these brakes will never feel anything like a 5er's, and that the brakes are just strong enough for the size of the trailer. I don't know, but I feel like at max power on the P3, I should be able to lock the tires up if I wanted, and it comes no where near lock up. How much brake feel should I notice? Shouldn't the tires lock up if you really throw the juice at them?
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Old 08-18-2015, 02:18 PM   #2
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Hi Dan,

Not disagreeing with your dealer but have you adjusted the power to the trailer brakes? See the attached and starting on page 5, you will see what I mean and this should be done before setting the "Boost".

http://www.tekonsha.com/support/installation/N90195.pdf

If you are at full power, there is a problem IMHO.

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That is exactly how I did it. At 14 on the controller, I can barely feel any drag. They recommend starting at 6, so I think there should be more brake feel considering I'm double that.
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You are getting the bums rush.
Ask the dealer how many miles the rig was pulled from the factory to you. If over 100 miles, the brakes are burnished. Someone needs to pull the hubs and see if they have grease in the brake assembly.

That would be them.
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Old 08-18-2015, 03:16 PM   #5
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Yes, at 20 mph you should be able to pull the brake lever and slow the entire rig down, to a stop if you like. No, the brakes are not like those on a 5ver. You will not be able to use the lever to stop on a dime.

However, I've purchased 2 Jayco hybrids new and the brakes were not right from the factory on either of them. On both trailers the adjustment pin on one wheel fell off on the first trip and rolled around inside the drum. On our Kiwi 17a the pin was ground to a nub by the time I caught it. The X20E was only missing the spring. Our X20E also had one brake that was dragging. It took two rounds of adjustment to get the brakes on all 4 wheels properly adjusted.

That's what I think is wrong with yours, they need adjustment. Trailers in this size don't have self adjusting brakes like a car does.

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You are getting the bums rush.
Ask the dealer how many miles the rig was pulled from the factory to you.
I think most trailers in this size range are hauled on the back of a flatbed trailer with other smaller travel trailers.
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Old 08-18-2015, 04:37 PM   #6
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Not sure why a TT brake should be different from a 5er. , electric brakes are electric brakes. Every time I've had a issue braking they needed adjusting and my 5er has auto adjusters. Made a 120 degree or better turn last month and accidentally pulled the breakaway cable - all stop mid turn.
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I would also check the wires going to the brakes. I've heard of instances where a brake wire was broken, or had a bad in-line connection. That would be an easier first check than pulling the hubs and checking for grease on the drums and shoes.
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I would also check the wires going to the brakes. I've heard of instances where a brake wire was broken, or had a bad in-line connection. That would be an easier first check than pulling the hubs and checking for grease on the drums and shoes.
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That's what I think is wrong with yours, they need adjustment.


I think most trailers in this size range are hauled on the back of a flatbed trailer with other smaller travel trailers.
You are correct, but it is still an adjustment on a new rig.
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Old 08-18-2015, 06:58 PM   #10
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The tech came out and I made him get in the truck to activate the brake controller. He said, "yeah, they're lite, but I can feel a little drag. It will get better as they break in." I wanted to call BS, but because this is my first travel trailer I couldn't say for sure he was wrong. I know these are not self adjusting, which will piss me off if I have to take it in for a brake adjustment and they try charging me for it by saying it's "normal maintenance". Not on a brand new trailer it isn't! I think I'll buy an adjustment tool and do it myself if that's the case. I work on most all of my own vehicles and such because I always do a much better job than dealers. Most of the time when I leave a dealership, I leave pissed off because of the crap they tend to spew.
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