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Old 06-27-2016, 01:55 PM   #1
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Camper is low on the tires?

I have a 2000 Kiwi 23B, this weekend when I pulled it up in the driveway to clean, I noticed the tires are exteremly close to the body, can barely put my hand between the two. I pulled it up on the level concrete pad, so I know it wasn't how I was parked.
Can anyone give me thoughts on what could be the problem? Do to work schedule, husband hasn't had the chance to crawl under there to look at everything.
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:14 PM   #2
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By "the body" do you mean the fender skirts (side wall) or the wheel tubs (tire surround).
You don't need much clearance at all from the sidewall as the wheels don't really move much side to side; they may distort about 1/2" when turning tightly and slowly on a hard surface (generally backing up), but a hand width would handle that.
If it is close to the tub, is there any sign of "scrubbing"? Is the tire actually hitting the tub on bumps? This could be an issue as you might actually wear right through the tub. If your trailer is very heavily loaded (near our beyond GVWR) or your suspension is getting weak, you may be just about sitting on the suspension stops. A trip to the cat scales will tell you if you are heavily loaded, and watching the TT carefully while going over bumps will tell you if you have suspension travel (use a spotter). If you have no suspension travel left, then that is something you should have dealt with; you could pretty much shake your trailer to pieces without a bit of bounce.
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:54 PM   #3
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By "the body" do you mean the fender skirts (side wall) or the wheel tubs (tire surround).
You don't need much clearance at all from the sidewall as the wheels don't really move much side to side; they may distort about 1/2" when turning tightly and slowly on a hard surface (generally backing up), but a hand width would handle that.
If it is close to the tub, is there any sign of "scrubbing"? Is the tire actually hitting the tub on bumps? This could be an issue as you might actually wear right through the tub. If your trailer is very heavily loaded (near our beyond GVWR) or your suspension is getting weak, you may be just about sitting on the suspension stops. A trip to the cat scales will tell you if you are heavily loaded, and watching the TT carefully while going over bumps will tell you if you have suspension travel (use a spotter). If you have no suspension travel left, then that is something you should have dealt with; you could pretty much shake your trailer to pieces without a bit of bounce.
Yes, it would be the wheel tubs. If I place my hand on top up the tire, I am touching the tire with my palm and the "tire surround" with the top of my hand. I would assume, since it's such a tight fit with my hand, I am probably getting "scrubbing" on bumps.
My trailer isn't overloaded for sure. I carry a Rubbermaid tub with dishes (not pots or pans) another for blankets and pillows, two- three dufflebags/suitcases, five fold-up chairs, 10x10 canopy and one typically empty cooler, nothing in fridge or cupboards until we arrive at CG, I grocery shop there. We travel very light compared to other travelers and we are only "weekend warriors".
Is that something that we could fix ourselves or is it "unfixable"?
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:30 PM   #4
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Sounds to close. Is it park right now on a level spot in the deiveway? The other side is not like that? Can you post a picture of each side for a comparison?

Without knowing more details, it's had to say what is wrong. Worse case senerio you would need a new axle. Can you do it yourself, depends on your skillset. Someone who is handy and comfortable working on things I would say absolutely. My guess you have an issue with the torsion tube on one axle.
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sounds strange to me unless a leaf has broken or a bolt in the shackle has come loos for it to be that close but pictures from under that side of the trailer would help
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Took a quick look online for specs, and it looks like you have a standard leaf spring suspension. After 16 years of towing, a lot can happen. I would give it a quick visual inspection to see if there is any obvious damage to the leaf springs or hangers/shackles. It is possible that rust or age has weakened something and caused a break. If so, the good news is that these suspensions are dead simple and any good shop can get things fixed up in no time.
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Took a quick look online for specs, and it looks like you have a standard leaf spring suspension. After 16 years of towing, a lot can happen. I would give it a quick visual inspection to see if there is any obvious damage to the leaf springs or hangers/shackles. It is possible that rust or age has weakened something and caused a break. If so, the good news is that these suspensions are dead simple and any good shop can get things fixed up in no time.
His trailer does not have leaf springs.
Check the link below to see what his axles look like


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His trailer does not have leaf springs.
Check the link below to see what his axles look like


3 inch lift
<img src="http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL651/2774278/23102394/t-385132528.jpg" border="0" alt="F
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His trailer does not have leaf springs.
Check the link below to see what his axles look like


3 inch lift
<img src="http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL651/2774278/23102394/t-385132528.jpg" border="0" alt="F
I stand corrected. Trying to help HER out, (unless HE has a Husband), I was thinking it might be torsion, so checked online at Jayco and could only go back as far as 2003 when they did have Torflex. But looking further back on a couple of other sites it looked like they were referencing leaf spring axles on the 2000 Kiwi 23B. Sorry to confuse.

OP disregard statements about leaf springs. Not sure what you can do to rehabilitate an old torsion axle if it has degraded. Do they make repair kits for the sprung components in a torsion axle? If the axle has sagged, you could get it lifted like previous posts. These axles also come with different offset angles, so you might be able to replace with a new axle with more clearance (or lift) if it does need replacing.
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