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03-08-2016, 12:32 AM
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Condensation?
We leave in a few days for our first road trip with our X23F. Moved up from 2 Coleman tent trailers, which never had condensation inside while camping, in 20 years. We slept in the hybrid once last week, and woke up to totally fogged windows, and a huge humidity headache. Tonight, spent a couple of hours inside it, packing and arranging, and noticed foggy windows again. Are hybrids so much tighter than a tent trailer? Do we need to keep a window or zipper open at night? Anyone else experience this?
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03-08-2016, 06:10 AM
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Yes, I keep the zipper cracked open at the upper corner on each tent end and the kitchen window. The bathroom vent fan lid cracked about an 1" if your still having problems. I ended up buying a dehumidifier for night time use and I set it on the kitchen counter when we're ready to turn in for the night.
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03-08-2016, 06:39 AM
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You just need some better air circulation at night. I would suggest trying to get a gentle cross breeze going by leaving a window slightly cracked/unzipped and leaving the bathroom fan running. This method works well for our bigger unit.
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03-08-2016, 07:10 AM
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I've had this as well, but not to the same degree you have.. We usually find a bit of condensation on the tent ends, and under the mattresses on the tent ends. I have the zippers cracked on both ends and the bathroom fan running as well.
Of course, that really sucks when you are running the furnace when it is in the high 30's outside, and you still have the cross breeze as well. I may have to look into one of those small dehumidifiers.
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03-08-2016, 07:20 AM
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I suggest listening to it run. If you are a light sleeper, it could keep you awake at night. Most hard top rigs have this problem and finding the right amount ov venting will usually help or eliminate it.
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03-08-2016, 07:28 AM
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I leave all my roof vents and one window open, just a little.
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03-08-2016, 08:04 AM
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I installed a MaxxAir cover over the bath vent on our X23B and we left it open full time even while stored. No leaks, no condensation.
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03-08-2016, 08:55 AM
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2X on the maxxair and the roofvent cracked open
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03-08-2016, 11:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHorse1
I installed a MaxxAir cover over the bath vent on our X23B and we left it open full time even while stored. No leaks, no condensation.
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We do the same - no issues.
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03-08-2016, 01:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHorse1
I installed a MaxxAir cover over the bath vent on our X23B and we left it open full time even while stored. No leaks, no condensation.
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Yep, we do too. Haven't had any issues with condensation.
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03-08-2016, 03:28 PM
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When camping we leave the little mini-window above the sink open. Very little issues with condensation. The times I forgot to open the window the underside of the mattress was wet and water was dripping off the inside of the tenting.
A pop-up doesn't have this issue because it breathes more.
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03-08-2016, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tunce the traveler
Yes, I keep the zipper cracked open at the upper corner on each tent end and the kitchen window. The bathroom vent fan lid cracked about an 1".
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X2, however we never open the kitchen window.
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03-08-2016, 06:36 PM
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Another for vent cover and vent open - always open about 1", even in storage.
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03-08-2016, 10:19 PM
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Thank you, everyone, for your ideas. I'm going to give it a couple of nights on our way to CA, and if we still have the problem, I really like the small dehumidifier idea! Happy Camping!
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03-09-2016, 06:54 AM
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You might also try heating with an electric space heater instead of your propane furnace. Propane produces a lot of moisture when it burns. Electric heat is very dry, and helps to minimize the moisture in any trailer.
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03-09-2016, 12:45 PM
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2x on using small ceramic heaters
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03-09-2016, 01:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownie
You might also try heating with an electric space heater instead of your propane furnace. Propane produces a lot of moisture when it burns. Electric heat is very dry, and helps to minimize the moisture in any trailer.
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Cooking (propane stove & boiling water etc.) and, of course, showering/bathing put a lot of moisture in the air, too.
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03-09-2016, 03:30 PM
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I agree, and have a small electric heater/fan that we will use when plugged in. However, my DH and I were discussing how propane would/could produce moisture. The exhaust from the furnace is channeled outside, so I don't understand how that works. I love science!
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03-12-2016, 08:56 AM
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Condensation=wet mattress bottoms! We've been back and forth with our dealer, who also contacted Jayco. Brand new hybrid, had condensation on the bottom of mattresses from the first trip to the point that we started getting mold on the bottom. We felt a cool breeze coming up under the mattress at the hinge and put towels across it and under the mattress, which really only resulted in wet towels under our mattress! Jayco said they are aware of the problem and did replace our mattresses - one time only. I was going to get waterproof mattress protectors on bottom of mattresses, but this results in more work setting up!! After reading the suggestions here, we're going to put a MaxxAir cover over the bathroom vent and leave that open full time and keep the kitchen window cracked when not using A/C. Hope this season is drier and less stressful!
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03-12-2016, 09:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by navymommy
I agree, and have a small electric heater/fan that we will use when plugged in. However, my DH and I were discussing how propane would/could produce moisture. The exhaust from the furnace is channeled outside, so I don't understand how that works. I love science!
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X2. The propane (as well as food and water boiling) from your cooking stove puts moisture inside the trailer. The propane furnace does not, as it vents to the exterior of the trailer. But just breathing, sweating and living in your trailer puts out a lot of moisture.
Lots of good suggestions already given for how to deal with it.
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