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Old 04-02-2013, 09:18 PM   #21
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I'd recommend a sway bar, the Z tows very well, but if you get into any strong crosswinds you will feel it. When we brought ours home from the dealer we had some fairly strong(25-35mph) crosswinds coming home. The sway bar definitely helped. This weekend I choose not to use the sway bar as we were going to a campground that is less than 10miles away. It was very windy coming home and I wished I had brought the sway bar.

I'd agree on the oven, not only does it take away space, it takes even more away from the limited cargo capacity.

Weird how RV Direct quoted you a much lower price, they told me $16,529 w/out the oven or DSI water heater.
That is strange. I cannot understand why there would be that much of a difference. When did you get your quote?
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:26 PM   #22
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We had the 17Z for one full season and simply had to trade up. There are 2 adults and one toddler in our group. While we loved that camper it simple did not provide enough space or overall cargo weight allowences. We got very tired of having to go to the truck and unpack, move things, pack, unpack again. We spent more time trying to find places to store clothes, linens, food, pots, pans, ect. If you travel light, then this may not be a problem. Had we been able to tow the larger version of this unit (the H I think) we probably would have gone that route. We used a weight distribution and sway bar set-up. The next year we upgraded the tow vehicle and the went to the 26RKS. Hope this helps.
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Old 04-03-2013, 04:45 AM   #23
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Actually, my parents are looking at one, the quote is from just a few days ago.

We must pack light, though we have a lot of stuff in there, the only things not in the camper are firewood(which I wouldn't want in there anyway), bag chairs and our EZ up. That stuff is easier to get out of the pickup anyway. Otherwise, it's all in the camper, the only things we move are the duffel bags with clothes, either into the bathroom or to the cupboards above the table and couch, those are empty normally.
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We use a load distributing hitch with a sway bar for towing our X17Z. Last year we towed it over 6,000 miles and camped over 50 nights in it with no issues.
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:19 AM   #25
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Cornhusker Pastor i'm not knocking the 17Z but you should look at the 19H, more room,carry more weight,more storage and more stable with the dual axel. Don't forget the electric awning which ever one you get. Just my $.02 Larry ps yes on the friction sway control.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:16 AM   #26
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Cornhusker Pastor i'm not knocking the 17Z but you should look at the 19H, more room,carry more weight,more storage and more stable with the dual axel. Don't forget the electric awning which ever one you get. Just my $.02 Larry ps yes on the friction sway control.
Can anyone recommend a weight distribution/sway bar system that has easy to hook up that they have had good success with in towing?
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:54 AM   #27
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I got my 2012 X20E last year for 16,800 if that is any help.
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I think 15,500 is not not out of the ballpark for that unit. We paid 14,500 for our 2012 last year in May, the dealer made a couple serious discounts for us as we were paying in cash.

We absolutely love our Z, and for two of us and two Golden Retrievers, it provides plenty of room,AND storage. Storage requires thinking creatively how you use the space, and do keep in mind to keep your items as light as possible (aluminum VS cast iron for example). Also, we don't travel with full tanks, or carry a lot of liquids inside. But, we have it packed with pretty much everything we need and are still within capacity.

Our TV is a Chevy Astro van, which handles it just fine, though at some point a little more engine would be nice. We do use an Equalizer sway system and would be pretty uncomfortable towing without it. Keep in mind that it's not the most aerodynamic trailer to ever come down the road, so draft and sway can be issues.

The oven was worth it to me, but we like to do things like fresh cinnamon rolls, and browning casseroles etc. It's not the most efficient oven in the world, and took some experimenting to work with it, but for me and the way we like to cook/eat on the road it is worth having.

We do absolutely love this camper, and have no desire to go into a larger model.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:55 AM   #29
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I think 15,500 is not not out of the ballpark for that unit. We paid 14,500 for our 2012 last year in May, the dealer made a couple serious discounts for us as we were paying in cash.

We absolutely love our Z, and for two of us and two Golden Retrievers, it provides plenty of room,AND storage. Storage requires thinking creatively how you use the space, and do keep in mind to keep your items as light as possible (aluminum VS cast iron for example). Also, we don't travel with full tanks, or carry a lot of liquids inside. But, we have it packed with pretty much everything we need and are still within capacity.

Our TV is a Chevy Astro van, which handles it just fine, though at some point a little more engine would be nice. We do use an Equalizer sway system and would be pretty uncomfortable towing without it. Keep in mind that it's not the most aerodynamic trailer to ever come down the road, so draft and sway can be issues.

The oven was worth it to me, but we like to do things like fresh cinnamon rolls, and browning casseroles etc. It's not the most efficient oven in the world, and took some experimenting to work with it, but for me and the way we like to cook/eat on the road it is worth having.

We do absolutely love this camper, and have no desire to go into a larger model.
Thanks for the insight! Yeah, I go back and forth on the oven. Pretty sure my wife is going to want to have that option. We'll be towing with a 2010 F-150, 5.4, so I'll have plenty of muscle to pull. Thanks for the insight on "creatively packing". I've heard that from several other posters and will keep that in mind.
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:48 AM   #30
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We'll be towing with a 2010 F-150, 5.4, so I'll have plenty of muscle to pull.
I'm not an advocate of always going "bigger" with campers, but if you've got the F-150 I'd really take a look at the x19H. This one is the basically the same floorplan as the X17Z, but has a tandem axle. We really would have preferred the dual axle, for the "just in case" you get a flat while towing scenerio, and to have a little more margin on the trailer capacity - but we didn't have the capacity with our Pilot to even consider it.
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