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Old 08-03-2012, 08:54 AM   #1
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Honda Pilot and Jayco x17z

IS anyone pulling the X17Z with a Honda Pilot? I am looking at one and was wondering if anyone has any issues. It fits all the parameters in the manual but fiugred I would ask.


Also if anyone owns the Z17Z and can share there happiness and dissatisfactions with the trailer I would apperciate your thoughts and opinions.


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Old 08-03-2012, 09:00 AM   #2
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IS anyone pulling the X17Z with a Honda Pilot? I am looking at one and was wondering if anyone has any issues. It fits all the parameters in the manual but fiugred I would ask.


Also if anyone owns the Z17Z and can share there happiness and dissatisfactions with the trailer I would apperciate your thoughts and opinions.


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I just picked up an 18D which I am pulling with a honda ridgeline so I am in the same boat as you. Mine is rated at 5000 tow capacity and you are 4500 I believe.
My camper is just about 500 pounds heavier the the 17.
So far so good, weird having the moter above 3000 rpms though
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:36 PM   #3
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Jamie -

We pull a 2012 X17Z with a 2009 Honda Pilot AWD. To date we've done two trips. The first was ~500 miles round trip from northern NJ to Central PA. The second was ~800 miles round trip from NJ to northern Vermont. Both trips had decent hills, we did not have an issue, other than the surprise of the decrease in gas mileage. Normally we get 21 MPG, towing a popup we got around 15 MPG, with the new Hybrid we are down to 10-12 MPG.

Knowing that there isn't much margin on GVWR (3500 lbs) vs. the unloaded (w/full propane, awning, AC weight of ~3100 lbs), we are very careful what is packed in the camper. For reference, our Pilot normally carries 2 adults, and gear weighing a total of about 550 lbs.

We absolutely LOVE the X17Z, the beds are really comfortable, it is quick & easy to set up, and has lots of space inside for those rainy days. The only thing we would have preferred would have been the x19 - I really wanted the tandem axle, but as you know, the Pilot doesn't have the tow capacity for that model.

If you have any other questions, feel free to shoot me a PM, I'd be happy to answer as best I can.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:11 PM   #4
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Good luck with the camper to be. I don't tow with a Pilot, but I have had a 17Z for 2 1/2 years. It is a great camper. Check out some of my mods at my webshots site.
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I am pulling a 19H with a Ridgeline and it does great! Also in Northern NJ!!!
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:57 PM   #6
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We are pulling a 19H with a 2010 awd Honda Pilot. We just got back from Cape Hatteras and had no problems. We are just careful with what we pack. No water in the tanks, no heavy luggage, we either use a tote bag or use the wonderful wardrobe. We don't carry alot of soda, bottles or water etc. that can get heavy. Other than getting 8.4 mi. per gallon(we used premium as suggested) everything went well. We have two boys and two dogs and really wanted the extra space of the 19H, so as long as we pack light I think we'll be fine.
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I pull a X20E with my 04 pilot. After market hitch and tranny cooler, WDH, and sway bar...no problems at all. Never get over 3500 rpm and drive in D3. It actually feels better behind me than my popup did without the extra equipment. To each his own...
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:35 PM   #8
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I have a X17Z 2012, been out 5 times so far this year, we love the trailer. would have liked some drawers. Only issue I have is that I am towing with a GM Uplander with anti sway and leveling, but I need a bigger tow vehicle.....
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We love our 17Z. It is a great unit. We downsized to it two years ago and have only one regret.... that we didn't do so sooner!
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jesway-- the pilot might be a little to small for the 19h, you might want double check it's capabilities. Larry
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I pull a X20E with my 04 pilot. After market hitch and tranny cooler, WDH, and sway bar...no problems at all. Never get over 3500 rpm and drive in D3. It actually feels better behind me than my popup did without the extra equipment. To each his own...
What is the tow capacity on the 04 pilot? WE have an '11 MDX that is 5000# and I am looking at an X20E as well, but concerned about the weight. Would definitely get a WD and sway bar.

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Just remember that real TRUCKS have more then 5 lug nuts per tire.....
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Just remember that real TRUCKS have more then 5 lug nuts per tire.....
And real trucks dont get 20 miles per gallon the 95% of the time you aren't towing anything.
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The goverment say's they can and thier working life will far exceed the front wheel drive V6 TV'S
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:22 AM   #15
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Jamie,
So, what did you guys decide? Did you see that Jayco just came out with the X17A. The layout is a bit different and looks really nice.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:06 AM   #16
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Joe,

We are still working on a choice, we think now with it as late in the year as it is, we are going to wait for the RV show in pittsburgh and make a decison in the spring. As of today we are still leaning at the X17's, but upon talking to Honda believe that with careful consideration to packing weights can pull the X19. And we might just upgrade into a beefier TV and jump on the 19 for the couple extra feet.

Thanks to everyone for your feedback it was great hearing forom you all.
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This may be a little late for the thread, but we just purchased a Swift 185RB and tow with a 2013 2wd Honda Pilot. Had the Pilot upgraded with the transmission cooler as recommended by Honda. This gives the Pilot a max 3500 gvw which matches the Swift specs. Have been on two trips so far with some good climbs and had no problems with power or overheating. No wdh is required. Have a sway bar, but these trips did not seem to require it. Last 284 miles experienced 13.8 mpg on 101 from Paso Robles through LA.
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The goverment say's they can and thier working life will far exceed the front wheel drive V6 TV'S
My 5.4 equipped Expedition struggles to beat 15 mpg running empty. After filling the 108 litre gas tank at $1.52/ litre yesterday that Pilot is looking really good.
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2013 Honda 4WD Pilot without weight distribution hitch.

I have not yet pulled with my 2013, 4WD Pilot but do intend to pull the pending delivery of our 2014 X17A. My owners manual states that Honda does not recommend using a weight distribution hitch.

I quote the book "A weight distribution hitch is not recommended for your vehicle. An improperly adjusted weight distribution hitch may reduce handling, stability, and braking performance". This surprised me, but not my dealer who did strongly recommend an anti sway device.

I'm curious to learn if this is a recent statement from honda and if others here pull without a wdh and how they rate the experience. Our first pull will be about 250 miles from the dealership with a Reese friction anti sway device but without a wdh. I'm hoping it to be a comfortable, safe drive.

The 2013 4WD pilot with two passengers is rated to tow 4500 lbs with 450 lbs of tongue weight. Jayco puts the X17A at 2795 lbs dry with 360 lbs at the tongue. I calculate actual weight will be around 3700 lbs with 370 at the ball. Which puts me at 82% of maximums recommended. As an engineer, I don't like to push the envelope so mathematically I'm expecting good results. We shall see.

Any thoughts are appreciated.
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We pull a X17Z with a Mazda CX9. We have had her out twice and so far so good! We did install a WDH with sway bars and naturally a brake controller. We do have the a tow package on the CX9 (factory) thank goodness or we couldn't pull a lawn mover LOL. We do watch everything that goes into that trailer to the point if I buy a can opener, weight plays a factor in the purchase! haha

Good luck, you should be fine!
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