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Old 08-20-2013, 08:05 PM   #11
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We have a 23b and love it. You say you have grand kids, so I am not sure how old you are, but climbing in and out of the bunk is kind of a hassle. Also, the beds are more comfortable in a BH. We added a foam topper to ours. 23B is great for us, but our next trailer will be a BH.
I hear ya Knick.....!!!

We took the camper out this past week-end and climbing over the wife in the middle of the night to go to the potty is a real "adventure", especially trying not to wake her up!

And I realized at age 62, I'm not nearly as limber as I used to be!!
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:14 PM   #12
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Thanks for all the responses, we are going Togo to a couple of RV shows in Michigan and try to narrow our decision down, We sure like all the room in the 23b and that also was our thoughts that grand kids could be sleeping in one end and we could still be out on couch, has anyone camped in cooler weather and how are the bunk ends when it is cold out, does the furnace keep them warm, probably camp into October here, usually not real cold, but could dip into 39's at night

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We have the x23b and find it fits our needs for now. I agree that the bunk ends are a tad of a hassle. The couch with the seam running down the center is uncomfortable according to the kids so they never want to make it flat. They'd rather sleep on it as a regular couch. While we really like our x23b, our next one will be a bunk house as well.

We loved the storage in the kitchen of the x23b by the way.
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:21 PM   #14
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Thanks for all the responses, we are going Togo to a couple of RV shows in Michigan and try to narrow our decision down, We sure like all the room in the 23b and that also was our thoughts that grand kids could be sleeping in one end and we could still be out on couch, has anyone camped in cooler weather and how are the bunk ends when it is cold out, does the furnace keep them warm, probably camp into October here, usually not real cold, but could dip into 39's at night

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We went camping in ours when it was cool at night. We found that using an electric heater, kept the furnace from running too much. Between the 2 we were warm and toasty, I found myself kicking the cover off!!
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:36 PM   #15
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Seven nights in a row in the 23b makes me want a Bunk House and larger tanks. Maybe in a couple years.
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:33 PM   #16
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We have been out in 20 degree nights, with no major issues. When it is that cold we have always had an electric site so far. We have a 1500 watt electric space heater, it keeps the HTT plenty warm, and we also have electric mattress pad heaters, which I like.

The propane furnace does a great job keeping the HTT nice and warm.

We were at a KOA this summer and were placed on the main road through the CG, I have to admit it was a noisy spot. The first day or two I was awaken very early when the big class A MH left each morning.
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Also studying the X23B

We too, have been studying the X23B vs the X23F, because we have grandchildren, 2 sets of twins ! This would be an upgrade from an old hardside Palomino.

At first glance the X23F looks like the right choice with 3 beds. However the X23B has a lot more storage with 2 wardrobes ! (Can one of the wardrobe be converted to hanging storage for jackets and shirts ?). The additional counter space in the kitchen area looks very useful.

I like the movable table, but also would like a "filler" platform with cushions to convert the U-shaped dinette into another sleeping location.

As someone else said the J-steel sofa does not make a good bed. I sure wish they offered a "true" fold out coach as an option.


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Old 08-27-2013, 09:29 AM   #18
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However the X23B has a lot more storage with 2 wardrobes ! (Can one of the wardrobe be converted to hanging storage for jackets and shirts ?).
Yes, the far end wardrobe in my 2014 has hangar bars across the top and the shelves could be removed to open it up below for hanging things to...well..hang.

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The additional counter space in the kitchen area looks very useful.
YES! We actually tend to use the space at the end for 'things' like hats, map of the campground, a tablet, etc. The stovetop and rest of the space tends to have cooking/dishes going on.

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I like the movable table, but also would like a "filler" platform with cushions to convert the U-shaped dinette into another sleeping location.

As someone else said the J-steel sofa does not make a good bed. I sure wish they offered a "true" fold out coach as an option.
So the u-dinette is setup to be converted to a bed. I've not used it yet though. I did use the sofa one night as I wasn't feeling well and my sniffles was keeping the wife up. It was 'ok' but it's not long enough for sure. When you put the table down, it's a platform that the back cushions around the dinette fill over to become the 4th bed in the camper.

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Old 08-27-2013, 08:54 PM   #19
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We have solved the J-steel sofa problem by using a foam bed bridge like this:

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The wife bought it at Bed & Bath and she says it feels alright on the sofa/bed, around $15 bucks.....

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/stor...dge/1012184352
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We have solved the J-steel sofa problem by using a foam bed bridge like this:
Looks like a good solution !

Personally, I would prefer to sleep the opposite direction (head by the wall and feet by the door), like a typical sleeper sofa, but I know it is not long enough.
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