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Old 02-12-2016, 06:34 PM   #1
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Looking at used 23B's. Advice

Hi all,

I'm pretty much settled on the 23B. Looking for some advice.

1. I am hoping to find a nice one used, due to finances. What are some common issues I need to look for on this particular model? Any usual spots for water intrusion, roof issues, etc? I'm looking at a 2006 tomorrow, anything specific regarding that model?

2. New is not out of the question. Dealer by me is offering a 2016 X23B for $19,900 plus tax and taqs. Is that a decent deal on a new one?

3. Tow vehicle is a 7 passenger SUV with a tow rating of 5000. X23 we were looking at (2016 model) showed 4308 pounds with propane tanks full, that had AC, TV, power awning, was pretty well loaded up with options. We will not be carring around water in the tanks so it will be mostly clothes and supplies. Reasonable tow vehicle? I've been towing things for over 20 years, this is the closest to the max rating I would be coming. We really have our heart set on a 23B, it is everything our family wants and needs.

Responses to the above questions, and any other advice, is more than welcome. Thanks!


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Old 02-12-2016, 06:47 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum. On the 2006, be very diligent in looking for leaks or any evidence thereof. That`s a 10 year old hybrid with 10 year old bunk doors and seals, as well as the roof caulking etc. Also check the floor. Some of the liteweight trailers had issues that developed in time with soft floors due to the luan/foam sandwich construction and lack of under support. Not trying to scare you off, just save you from some headaches other members have experienced when buying used trailers of moderate age. The one you are looking at may be just fine and well kept, but check it out good.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:21 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply, very much appreciated. I've bought a few used campers and have had my share of unpleasant surprises pop up, some minor some not so minor.

I will check as good as I can for roof and floor issues as well as general condition.

Hoping some 23b owners past and present may have some specific recurring issues to be on the lookout for.

Thanks again!
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:04 PM   #4
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Crab is spot on about things to watch for. We owned a 23B for 2 years and loved it but knew we wanted to trade up pretty quickly. On a related topic, I'd suggest weighing your TV to make sure it's up to the task. In my limited experience you will hit the Rear GAWR well before reaching the tow rating.
We towed our 23B with an '03 Expedition which had a tow rating of 9500# as I recall. At the scales I learned the TT was about 4800# but we were less than 200# from the rear axle rating. Sorry to be such a "nanny" about weights, that's just me.
That said, we loved our 23B. It's an excellent combination of towed length (short) and usable space (2 "queen" beds). We preferred the rear bunk for ourselves (the owner's cabin).

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Old 02-12-2016, 08:25 PM   #5
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Weight is at the top of my concerns as I mentioned. I used to have a full size pickup with a 10000 pound tow rating, but here we are now with a tiny hatchback (my commuter) and the family wagon (the suv). For the record its a 2015 Hyundai Santa Fe, the full size not the sport, with the 300hp V6 and a 2" receiver. I believe I can keep the 23B safely under 5000, and I do have extensive towing experience so I understand the dynamics of towing and would not want to jeopardize anyone's safety, including the drivers around me, and most importantly my family and I. Brake controller, sway bars/load dist, etc.

Santa fe is rated for 5000 total towing with a 500 lb tongue weight, within limits of the 23B. I believe the GWVR loaded of the 23B is under 5000, as the model I looked at listed the weight as ~4300 and cargo capacity at ~600 which I specifically remember totalling up to less than 5k.
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Talking so far so good

Just purchased a 2004 23B, towing not an issue with my F150. I have not taken it out yet 8 degrees and a foot of snow ! I have used this forum to the degree that I took all the advice and feel I made a great choice. These units are solid and well made. The main thing is how well did the person prior to you take care of it ? Mine is solid through and throughout, I see that come spring I may need to do some minor caulking at the sides, looking a little brittle. I also read ans was suggested to check the slides and how easy they crank out,as well as the rubber that encompasses the slide outside. Rust on any of the water faucets,lines being old and worn window seals etc. I cannot thank the folks on this forum enough ! I cannot wait to post pics and get her home. Now I am going to purchase my WDH and sway control this weekend, along with a host of other things. Certainly a lot different than my PUP.
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Hey two, I hear you. Good luck with the 23B, it's an excellent TT.
My parting comment is our tongue was 600#.
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I am by no means an expert and have less experience than it sounds like you have however recently going through the how much can we tow process I've learned a few things. Much of it from this forum. We had an '04 Expedition with a tow rating of 8950#. We have 6 passengers. Our TT has a GTWR of 6K. Our sticker in door jamb of TV said max cargo was 1700#. When we subtracted passengers there was just enough for the tongue weight. All looked acceptable on paper. When put into action and weighed at CAT scales we were very over the RAWR just as Redhorse warns. We also had a lot of rear squat that we couldn't correct with the WDH.

So, in short, our tow rating was almost 3000# over what our trailer weighed yet it still really didn't work. We got by for a few trips but it wasn't great. How many passengers and what is your available payload?

Here is a handy calculator to help.
http://rvtowcheck.com/rvtc_calculator.html
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Old 02-13-2016, 07:28 AM   #9
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We have a 2006 also, love it! The previous owners took real good care of it so it was an easy purchase for us. Biggest problem I see is the elements, if you can keep it out of them when not in use they last so much longer. We keep ours in storage when not in use. As said earlier look over the bunk end seals, ours are now brittle and need replaced. Go to the mod section on here and you will find all kinds of upgrades to do.
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Two,

Welcome and congrats on the future new (to you) rig!!!

As for your suv tv, it looks like you will be right on the edge if not over most if not all tow ratings.

I am not sure if Hyundai is now following the SAE J2807 tow rating standards or not, but even if they are, that only includes 2-150lb passengers in the vehicle. Any additional passengers, any cargo, and possibly the wdh hitch weight in the tv result in a lower trailer tow rating..

I should verify it is the X23B you are looking at, correct? IF the '06 you are looking at is similar in weight to the '16 specs Jayco has posted on their website, I would bet you will over the hitch rating of 500lbs, probably before even loading the trailer up for a trip! The '16 has a "BROCHURE" tw (dry hitch/tongue weight) of 440lbs. That does not include a battery or the propane tank(s) on the tongue. IF that trailer only has 1-20lb propane tank and a battery, add about 80lbs to the "dry" tw. That gives you a 520lb tw before you have loaded the trailer... And you posted your SF hitch rating is only 500lbs?

Something to keep in mind, the "brochure" dry trailer weight does not inlcude any options, even those that are "mandatory" options. There isn't many options for the '16- X23B, but they could easily add ~200+ lbs to the 4225lb dry trailer weight for the a/c, awning, spare tire, plus the few other items...

As for looking for at a used (even NEW!!!) trailer, check all the walls, ceiling, floors for water damage as mentioned.Check all appliances to make sure they work, both on electric and gas (if they have that option).

Good luck!
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