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Old 07-29-2014, 01:34 AM   #1
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Pre-Newbie Purchase Help Needed

This is our first day on the Forum and we are busily pursuing our Newbie badge. We will be ordering a 2013 X23B in a few days and despite the fact that we have been "lurking" around the Forum for two weeks and have read the manual, we have many questions.

This is entirely new to us but we are committed to moving forward and very excited about this new adventure.

We live in Palm Desert (Southern CA) and it is HOT here. We plan to stay within a few hours of home for the first season or two so staying cool is important to us.

If you can help with any of of this please chime in:
  • Does upgrading to a 15K BTU AC make sense instead of the more standard 13.5 BTU?
  • Does the AC have a thermostat or is it just an off/on type switch?
  • What type of water hose is best for connecting at parks?
  • Thanks to the person who posted the long ago thread about how to weigh the TV/TT. There was no way that I could see to leave a "thank you", and I learned a lot from that posting.
  • Again, we are in So. CA - do we need mud dauber screens?
  • We have a bicycle rack that fits into our hitch. Is there something that the dealer can install so that we can carry our bikes on the back bumper of the TT?
  • Can someone tell me about a 12V converter for a Resmed C-pap? Do they work?
  • Any suggestions for a rear camera for back end of TT?
  • We like the idea of the heated mattress pads (for our colder trips). How do they work? Do they plug in or are they hardwired. Will we need extra batteries or what for these?
  • Suggestions for best hitch lock or way of protecting the TT while we are out hiking, etc?
I have been reading about the Jayco UltraLites for the past six months. We are a bit concerned because after reading the Forum we now believe that we are cutting the weight ratings close. Will be upgrading the TV in about 14 months and we are planning to be very careful.

Thanks to all of you who contribute. Your collective help is priceless.
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Old 07-29-2014, 06:07 AM   #2
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Welcome to The Forum, and to the world of RVing! I'm not the incredibly technical kind, so can't speak to many of your questions, but there are a lot of incredibly technical folks in the JOF who I'm sure will be able to help. I just wanted to welcome you and wish you Happy Camping.
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Old 07-29-2014, 07:15 AM   #3
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The 15K AC makes sense, because it is usually a 150$ option, so it is worth it. And usually you have a thermostat
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Welcome to the forum
Pop up Gizmo's on the tent ends do keep the tent ends cooler in the hot weather and warmer in the winter.
I have 2-25' white drinking hoses that I carry in the TT but just 95% of the time I only need 1 for my water hook-up. I fill up my hose and run it for about 30 seconds before I hook it up to the TT.
A good water filter is a must at any location your at.
Always make sure the tire chocks are in place before you unhook the TT from the TV.
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Old 07-29-2014, 01:46 PM   #5
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Thanks for the nice welcome. We are (obviously) not all that technical either but we are still hoping to get some answers to our questions.
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Meant to tell you that we are also ordering the Popup Gizmos. Just going with the lighter ones for now.

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Is this something that can be changed out at the dealership? (Richardsons RV in Murrieta, CA)
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Congrats on your pending purchase!

-Bigger AC definitely makes sense, and usually worth the increase in price at time of purchase, if you find out later you need a bigger unit, it can get REALLY expensive, but keep in mind the extra voltage requirement of a bigger unit

-It will have its own thermostat, but if it's analog, it will allow wide swings in temperature

-Be sure to get a white water hose for connecting at the CG. Don't skimp on cost here, a flexible hose that is less likely to kink and easier to roll up is worth the extra cost; and just go ahead and get 2; I've only ever need my second one once, but it paid for itself that day IMO.

-I would take your TV loaded as it would be for a trip and weigh it, then make sure you weigh your rig after you have it all loaded up

-I have screens on my water heater, refrigerator, and furnace outlet because as a kid in East Texas, we had bugs everywhere. They are cheap, so I figure why not.

-I would not attach a bike rack to your rear bumper unless you have it reinforced. There are brackets you can buy to attach to the bumper, but I've read too many horror stories. Your dealer will not likely be able to make the reinforcement necessary, but many repair shops that have a welder on site can do it.

-Can't speak to the 12V converter, but you wouldn't really need a converter unless you're boondocking (no shore power), and I would imagine any properly voltage-matched converter would work.

-I would not attach a camera on the back of my trailer because I don't see the need, DW is my spotter, and she's WAY better than any camera, but there are systems available (sorry, not much help there...)

-For heated mattress pads, I would just get a regular household one if I used one at all. We use a very small space heater that works wonderful for us, and supplements the on-board furnace nicely but then it doesn't get that cold down here. Just be careful with voltage, anything that creates heat uses lots of power.

-I don't tend to worry too much about my trailer being stolen while it is set up and parked in a CG. But while it's in storage, I use a simple pad lock. If I were worried about theft, I would put a pretty sizable lock on the tongue, and run a cable or chain through the wheels. If they want it, they'll take it, but I want to make it look like a PITA so they move on to lower hanging fruit. It's all the stuff that's hanging around your site that's more likely to get stolen (grills, bikes, generators, chairs...). Thieves are lazy creatures of opportunity, and taking down a trailer that has been setup for occupation and hauling it off would be quite an endeavor and take WAY more time than any common thief would be willing to devote. While at the CG, get to know your neighbors, RVers tend to watch out for each other, and more eyes on your stuff means less chance of it walking away.

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Congrats on your pending purchase!

-Bigger AC definitely makes sense, and usually worth the increase in price at time of purchase, if you find out later you need a bigger unit, it can get REALLY expensive, but keep in mind the extra voltage requirement of a bigger unit

-It will have its own thermostat, but if it's analog, it will allow wide swings in temperature

-Be sure to get a white water hose for connecting at the CG. Don't skimp on cost here, a flexible hose that is less likely to kink and easier to roll up is worth the extra cost; and just go ahead and get 2; I've only ever need my second one once, but it paid for itself that day IMO.

-I would take your TV loaded as it would be for a trip and weigh it, then make sure you weigh your rig after you have it all loaded up

-I have screens on my water heater, refrigerator, and furnace outlet because as a kid in East Texas, we had bugs everywhere. They are cheap, so I figure why not.

-I would not attach a bike rack to your rear bumper unless you have it reinforced. There are brackets you can buy to attach to the bumper, but I've read too many horror stories. Your dealer will not likely be able to make the reinforcement necessary, but many repair shops that have a welder on site can do it.

-Can't speak to the 12V converter, but you wouldn't really need a converter unless you're boondocking (no shore power), and I would imagine any properly voltage-matched converter would work.

-I would not attach a camera on the back of my trailer because I don't see the need, DW is my spotter, and she's WAY better than any camera, but there are systems available (sorry, not much help there...)

-For heated mattress pads, I would just get a regular household one if I used one at all. We use a very small space heater that works wonderful for us, and supplements the on-board furnace nicely but then it doesn't get that cold down here. Just be careful with voltage, anything that creates heat uses lots of power.

-I don't tend to worry too much about my trailer being stolen while it is set up and parked in a CG. But while it's in storage, I use a simple pad lock. If I were worried about theft, I would put a pretty sizable lock on the tongue, and run a cable or chain through the wheels. If they want it, they'll take it, but I want to make it look like a PITA so they move on to lower hanging fruit. It's all the stuff that's hanging around your site that's more likely to get stolen (grills, bikes, generators, chairs...). Thieves are lazy creatures of opportunity, and taking down a trailer that has been setup for occupation and hauling it off would be quite an endeavor and take WAY more time than any common thief would be willing to devote. While at the CG, get to know your neighbors, RVers tend to watch out for each other, and more eyes on your stuff means less chance of it walking away.

Again, welcome!
Camper Bob! We only wish that we had someone like you in our family. Wow! Thanks for all the info.

We have had some other responses and we are currently at:

No Bike Rack - they go inside the TT
CAT Scale is first stop - we have all the instructions
Upgrade to the larger AC - if weight allows it
Forget the heated mattress pads for now
Simple lock-up method
(2) 25' white water hoses
No Boondocking until we learn a lot more - )now I don't need to know so much about the 12V system)

Still wondering about the type of hitch and how best to stabilize (other than weighing and redistributing weight).
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Why I or you might need that extra 25' hose is because from time to time you might find a great site location but it's set-up for a Class A and their hoop-ups are located on the other side because they pull in.
In Winchester Bay, Oregon you have a choice of ocean or bay site but all bay sites are setup for Class A ( need just about 33' for that one).
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