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Old 06-19-2013, 12:26 AM   #11
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We owned the 17Z and we own a Honda Odyssey. That minivan was not made to two that camper. TRUST ME! When we bought the 17Z we towed with a Jeep Cherokee and then a Ford F150. We investigated all of the variables for both our Odyssey and our Jeep and I don't care what the dealer is telling you, that minivan shouldn't be towing the 17Z. Matter of fact, there are only a few pop-ups I would pull with the Honda. What many others have said here about how fast your "extra" weight limits add up is very true, and they are correct about sway issues, head winds...the list goes on. If you research all of the weight limits yourself, you will find that this is a bad set-up. Please, find a different camper for your Odyssey or upgrade your tow vehicle. Safety is my big pet peeve with camper owners and dealers that push unsafe set-ups. Sorry if this sounds like a lecture, but we investigated, and this is my 2 cents.
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:59 PM   #12
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Sound advice.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:03 PM   #13
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I know someone who tows a tent trailer with a 2010 Honda Civic. Personally I think he's crazy. I agree that your Oddyssey should not tow the x17z. In perfect conditions it might be fine but throw in a few hills, a cross wind and a transport truck blowing by??!! No thanks!

Have you tried a pup-up? We had two of them over a number of years and towed them with our Chev Astro. Great trailer and miles better than tenting!!!
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Old 06-27-2013, 04:47 PM   #14
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We pull our X17C with a dodge ram 3500 15 pass van - gas v8 engine. Recently had to put in a new engine (poor thing was nearly 14 years old afterall!) and while it's the same engine, it does NOT pull the same. It bogs down on anything over a mild grade and the original engine did not - or rather, not to the same degree. My problem is we use the trailer for dog shows, so MUST have a VAN TV as I have this personal quirk that the dogs must be inside in the same conditions I am enduring. Just this past week, hubby got re-ended big time in his Mazda6 and insurance company totaled the vehicle. So we're looking at replacing it with a Ford E350 Super Duty 6.0L V8 Turbo Diesel 12 pass van. Slightly smaller van, higher torque = we hope, better towing capacity; gas mileage is still gonna suck. LOL We rarely take more than 2-3 dogs with us, and some expens so weight should not be an issue in this van since we remove the seats to make the vehicle dog friendly. (And since we only need to pack for a couple of days, luggage isn't exactly an issue either.) We also don't tow more than a few hours from home much as we'd prefer to have the trailer. It's just more cost effective to hotel it in those instances.
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We pull our X17C with a dodge ram 3500 15 pass van - gas v8 engine. Recently had to put in a new engine (poor thing was nearly 14 years old afterall!) and while it's the same engine, it does NOT pull the same. It bogs down on anything over a mild grade and the original engine did not - or rather, not to the same degree. My problem is we use the trailer for dog shows, so MUST have a VAN TV as I have this personal quirk that the dogs must be inside in the same conditions I am enduring. Just this past week, hubby got re-ended big time in his Mazda6 and insurance company totaled the vehicle. So we're looking at replacing it with a Ford E350 Super Duty 6.0L V8 Turbo Diesel 12 pass van. Slightly smaller van, higher torque = we hope, better towing capacity; gas mileage is still gonna suck. LOL We rarely take more than 2-3 dogs with us, and some expens so weight should not be an issue in this van since we remove the seats to make the vehicle dog friendly. (And since we only need to pack for a couple of days, luggage isn't exactly an issue either.) We also don't tow more than a few hours from home much as we'd prefer to have the trailer. It's just more cost effective to hotel it in those instances.
I don't know about your camper, but our x17z had a sticker on the a frame warning not to tow with a one ton or larger.
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I don't know about your camper, but our x17z had a sticker on the a frame warning not to tow with a one ton or larger.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:11 PM   #17
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Personally I see no reason why a 4000 + lb. minivan with a powerful V6 can't pull a trailer with a max weight of only 3500 lbs. I think the reason people have had trouble is auto makers failure to offer proper towing packages on anything but trucks. The packages you get on minivans and large crossovers are to often little more then a trans cooler and some prewiring.

It would be nice if there more choices for people with small to mid sized trailers other then pick ups. Yes a pick up makes a great TV but it's not a good minivan and it's a lousy commuter car.

The Expedition I bought makes an OK minivan but sucks for commuting. Too big and too much gas. I spent months search for a new TV and ended up buying used for lack of choice. The Expedition will serve as our second car and I'll buy a new car instead.

(my little rant for the day)
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