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Old 05-27-2015, 02:35 PM   #21
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1. If you set up or pack up during a rainstorm, your bed is gonna get wet. Same problem with the popup.
I've got to disagree with this one...granted we've only been out 3 times in our 23B...but pretty much every time it has been raining during setup or takedown if not both! (Which I actually don't mind...makes me feel like the money we spent was worth it! )

Unless you have a habit of fully unzipping the windows prior to storage and you choose to setup/take down during a monsoon...you're simply not going to get that much water inside the bunkends during the 30 seconds it takes to drop the end and put in the brace. Granted this assumes there's two people, one inside and one out. But if it's only you...why bother to drop the ends in a monsoon?

Finally, the mattress are separate from the platforms; at least on our 23B and I assume all Jayco HTT. So what little water that might get in, is on the platforms. Easy enough to wipe up before putting down the mattress.
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Old 05-29-2015, 09:41 AM   #22
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Our first camper was a used Starcraft hybrid. My wife researched campers and that is what she wanted. After about a year she decided she had made a mistake. Not only did she not like the hybrid but it had issues. We sold it at a loss. She wanted a different camper and the two things she wanted was a bigger fridge and a permanent bed. She was tired of the set up time on the hybrid. So we bought a new Jay Flight Swift 238rb. She loves it. The downside is that we can only tow it with our truck where as she could tow the hybrid with our Wrangler Unlimited.

That being said, there are many people that buy hybrids and love them. Everybody has their own tastes. Some people like driving compact cars and some want a lifted 4x4 truck. All that matters is what makes you happy.
X2 as my wife also believes we made a mistake in buying our 19H primarily because of the noise in the canvas bunk ends. Although the beds are VERY comfortable, the noise from outside is too much for use as we are light sleepers. As far as the rest of the HTT, we are very happy with it (good refrig., excellent stove and oven, good AC and heater, etc.). This summer will be a test run with our 19H as we are going to LIVE in it for two to two and one half months! Depending on how that goes, we will most likely get a vehicle that can pull a larger fully-enclosed TT (our current tow vehicle can only pull 4500#) and get something like a 28-32 ft. Jayco.
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:06 AM   #23
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One comment, rather question, about noise in a hybrid, I have to wonder where people camp that's so noisy at night? We have just never had this issue. We stay away from the "party" parks. No matter what you camp in, you don't get any sleep in those places. But the state parks, and the RV parks with better reputations that we've been to have all been really quiet at night. We love hearing the natural night noises, the breeze, birds and other animals. Very soothing.
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:18 AM   #25
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One comment, rather question, about noise in a hybrid, I have to wonder where people camp that's so noisy at night? We have just never had this issue. We stay away from the "party" parks. No matter what you camp in, you don't get any sleep in those places. But the state parks, and the RV parks with better reputations that we've been to have all been really quiet at night. We love hearing the natural night noises, the breeze, birds and other animals. Very soothing.
X2 And I might add the beds NEVER get wet when you fold up in the rain. Winter storms are great to watch on the Oregon coast so my Hybrid has been put through the wind and rain test several times and I'm always dry.
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X2 as my wife also believes we made a mistake in buying our 19H primarily because of the noise in the canvas bunk ends. Although the beds are VERY comfortable, the noise from outside is too much for use as we are light sleepers. As far as the rest of the HTT, we are very happy with it (good refrig., excellent stove and oven, good AC and heater, etc.). This summer will be a test run with our 19H as we are going to LIVE in it for two to two and one half months! Depending on how that goes, we will most likely get a vehicle that can pull a larger fully-enclosed TT (our current tow vehicle can only pull 4500#) and get something like a 28-32 ft. Jayco.
We just run the A/C on fan for white noise
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After tent camping for a hundred years, our first camper was a Hybrid in 2011. We found that noise travels when your higher up off the ground. And no matter where you camp, you can get noisy neighbors that stay up later that you want. The rain was not an issue. I enjoyed the rain hitting the canvas just like being in a tent and water did not get in once set up. But after 2 seasons we decided a hard sided unit was better for us. Now we sleep much better..
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And no matter where you camp, you can get noisy neighbors that stay up later that you want.
I think it does matter where you camp. Sure we've had late night neighbors who sit up and talk until the wee hours. But we've found that's an exception.
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I think it does matter where you camp. Sure we've had late night neighbors who sit up and talk until the wee hours. But we've found that's an exception.
Ok, it doesn't matter where I camp..My crystal ball don't tell me what my neighbors will be like
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We sold our '08 19H for a fully-enclosed (28DSBH).

Quality of sleep was a big factor. We don't stay in "party campgrounds" and could hear people quietly talking at their campfires. Running the fan/AC did help. Getting fully enclosed with a regular queen bed has helped immensely.

After a long drive, don't underestimate the importance of a good sleep!

The biggest factor for considering a hybrid is probably tow-ability. That factor went away when bought our pick-up.
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