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Old 01-23-2016, 06:20 PM   #71
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So We have settled on the 23b..yay!!! I have a couple questions though...
1- I plan to do some winter camping so is it worth getting the enclosed underbelly
2- does anyone have one with the new electronic sway control? Is that worth it?
3- any other ideas you guys can add would be appreciated
Thanks! We can't wait to pick up our new HTT
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Old 01-23-2016, 09:04 PM   #72
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So We have settled on the 23b..yay!!! I have a couple questions though...
1- I plan to do some winter camping so is it worth getting the enclosed underbelly
2- does anyone have one with the new electronic sway control? Is that worth it?
3- any other ideas you guys can add would be appreciated
Thanks! We can't wait to pick up our new HTT
1) I think I would save my money and install aftermarket heating pads and heat traces instead. The enclosed underbelly is not very effective, and even when heat is ducted to the underbelly, and it only works when the heater is on. If in storage, it can still ruin everything.

2) I think you are better off with a conventional WDH with SC IMO.

3) Tire pressure monitoring system has saved more than one persons bacon on this forum. Progressive Industries energy management system\ surge protection is a must have. A back up camera system can be a big help.

Congratulations on your new acquisition. You have come to the right place. Lots of knowledgeable people willing to share their experiences.
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Old 01-23-2016, 10:44 PM   #73
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So We have settled on the 23b..yay!!! I have a couple questions though...
1- I plan to do some winter camping so is it worth getting the enclosed underbelly
2- does anyone have one with the new electronic sway control? Is that worth it?
3- any other ideas you guys can add would be appreciated
Thanks! We can't wait to pick up our new HTT
I don't have your model but their similar on the rear bunk and I made steps for Tunces so she doesn't have to jump in or out and it's real easy for the grand kids too.
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Old 02-11-2016, 06:58 PM   #74
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So We have settled on the 23b..yay!!! I have a couple questions though...
1- I plan to do some winter camping so is it worth getting the enclosed underbelly
2- does anyone have one with the new electronic sway control? Is that worth it?
3- any other ideas you guys can add would be appreciated
Thanks! We can't wait to pick up our new HTT
Congratulations!
We have an X17z and don't have the enclosed underbelly. Haven't had an issue.
We originally towed with a 2008 Ford Escape that had the V-6 and towing package. It was the top end of what that little rig could tow, but with the WD hitch, electric trailer brake and the friction sway control bar, we never had an issue. We've since moved up to an F-150 and I still use the same hitch system.
Pop up Gizmos are great for colder weather camping. They go over your bunk ends and help keep the warm air in and out depending on the outside temp. They also have a newer product to insulate your bunk end sides, during cold weather.
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Congratulations! I can't add anything to what others have already answered, they covered it well.
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Not sure where Plainfield is located, my gut says you are in the Midwest. How cold do you call winter camping? If you are in the upper Midwest, the 23B might not be the right rig, for winter camping. If you are in the southern states, you’d be ok. We have been out in the low 20’s without issue without an enclosed underbelly or any special setup. I’d be concerned about the water pipes along the back wall freezing up in really cold weather. Pop a little hole in the heat duct within the wall, and it might provide enough warmth to avoid freeze issues. Personally, if I was taking my unit out when very cold, I would use it dry. No water in the pipes or down the drain. 5 gallon jug of water, and dish pans poured out, outside.
I do find the outside edge of the bunks cool when the outside temps are in the low 20’s. We use aftermarket heated mattress pads, they are great in cooler weather. We do not use PUGs, I am sure they would help, and reduce some of the cold weather condensation on the canvas.

As others said, add your own aftermarket tank heaters and heat trace on the sewer piping, if you want running water in the cold weather.

As for the enclosed underbelly, I think all it is plastic corrugated sheeting, I do not think there is any additional insulation.
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