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Old 05-17-2015, 06:27 PM   #1
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Want Hybrid,but hesitant

Ive been in the market for several months for a TT. Whatever I get it will be a Jayco. I had pretty much decided on several models, until I started looking at the Hybirds. I really like the layout of the 23B and 23F. However, as someone who has had several pop ups in the past, I really want to move on from the pop up style beds. But there are some nice features in these Hybrids that really appeal to me, such as the floor space, trailer is liteweight, much shorter than regular trailer I want, and so forth. For those that have Hybrids, do you like them, would you do it again. My biggest concern is the durability of the canvas and potential for leaks as it ages, and threads/stitching becoming weak. Also have heard there has been issues in the past with water leaks into the walls around the beds. What can you tell me to convince me its the right or wrong way to go?

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Old 05-17-2015, 06:35 PM   #2
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We skipped it when we upgraded from a PUP. Had a few people tell us PUP's are a gateway camper and you start there then get a Hybrid the a TT and so on lol. So after a lot of looking we skipped right into the TT. I will say while out camping 2 weeks ago we were amazed to see 8 different families in the campground with the Jayfeather hybrids. Talked to 2 of them and they like theirs a lot. So I guess it depends on what you are looking for and more importantly what you are towing with.

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Old 05-17-2015, 07:07 PM   #3
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We live in Western WA (think lots of rainy days...) and have a 2012 X20e that we purchased new almost three years ago. I'd buy it again in a heartbeat, here's why:

1- more living space in a compact size
2- manageable towing weight
3- slideout makes a big difference

Our canvas has help up exceedingly well although we do turtle when the Jayco doubles as our mini ski lodge. I've had no leaks in either bunk or any other issues with the camper at all.
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Old 05-17-2015, 07:19 PM   #4
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Our first camper was a used Starcraft hybrid. My wife researched campers and that is what she wanted. After about a year she decided she had made a mistake. Not only did she not like the hybrid but it had issues. We sold it at a loss. She wanted a different camper and the two things she wanted was a bigger fridge and a permanent bed. She was tired of the set up time on the hybrid. So we bought a new Jay Flight Swift 238rb. She loves it. The downside is that we can only tow it with our truck where as she could tow the hybrid with our Wrangler Unlimited.

That being said, there are many people that buy hybrids and love them. Everybody has their own tastes. Some people like driving compact cars and some want a lifted 4x4 truck. All that matters is what makes you happy.
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:53 PM   #5
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I really like mine and it's a 2010 EXP 21M with a large slide. I bought it used because the new ones didn't have the room or layout we wanted. Purchased just under 2 years ago for 15k out the door and all hooked up. It has His & Hers closets, good counter space, easy TV viewing, 4 ceiling speakers, good storege space, rear bumper for bicycles,outside shower/electric/grill bracket within easy reach for prep and cooking, no table legs to get in the way it's a wall support.
Canvas is in very good condition after 4 years and stitching is in very good shape as well. Hybrids give you plenty of light and Fresh air and the 21M has more floor space that comes in handy when you have extra guests and on rainy days. The slide extends 3' so the trailer is 11' wide. When it's closed you can still use the bathroom, table and kitchen when your on the road. I pull it with a VW Touareg TDI.
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:58 PM   #6
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The kitchen wall, we took out the stove and moved the micro wave down in its place and use a butane stove that we can just move outside whenever we want to. Real easy for prep work and washing dishes from left to right. We never need the table for prep and it seats 4 people and no clutter.
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Old 05-18-2015, 06:08 AM   #7
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We moved from a used pop up to a new hybrid. The tent ends are much easier to set up on a hybrid than a pop up. It takes a few effortless minutes to set up the beds. We went with Jayco over Forest River because we believed based on our own research that the Jayco has better seals and design.

When we are beach camping, we can hear the waves. For us, we like this.

We have not experienced any leaks. We like the space in our floor plan. We like to think of it as our humble cabin on wheels with the right mix of amenities for camping.

We also sought to control our fuel costs. We bought our TV and HTT within a week of each other. We believed the combination would let us spend more at our destination than at the pumps along the way.

When we get older, we will likely skip to a Greyhawk 31FS.
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Old 05-18-2015, 06:19 AM   #8
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I got a hybrid because I didn't want to camp in a solid metal or fiberglass box. I like the idea of the tent ends. Also they are pretty light weight and easy to tow.
Set up time in a hybrid is very fast once you get your rhythm. Unlike a pop up, you don't have to crank the roof up, pull out the beds, etc, you just unlock the beds and drop them down, then move the mattress into place.
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From pup tents with no floors, to tents with floors and flies, to a pop up, to the expandable.
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Old 05-18-2015, 06:31 AM   #9
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We love our 19H. I can set it up or tear it down by myself in 30 minutes or less once I'm level. We can keep everything in it year round (unlike a pup) and have had no issues with the canvas. We did have some of the screws tear the plastic used to hold the canvas onto the camper but I've been able to fix that myself.

Now the honest answer is if I had a TV that could tow a full camper with a master bedroom I would probably upgrade in a few years. I just don't like having to convert something (table, couch, etc.) into a bed to go to sleep at night. With the 19H we have 2 beds that are there all the time and if we had company we could convert and add sleeping space but by default everything stays together.

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Old 05-18-2015, 07:31 AM   #10
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I was always impressed by how much more open space you gain with the Hybrid with the Tent Beds folding down from the outside. You do not have to walk around any beds like in the TT have,

The early HYBRIDS were leak prone with the large drop down doors that could easily slightly warp and allow water to come thru the seals. I think all of that has been over come as you hardly ever read about about HYBRID leaks now on the forums.

We are avid tent campers from the 50s and have been running the roads the last 5-6 years with our OFF-ROAD POPUP camper. Always thought we would end up in a HYBRID and did do some looking. Our present setup gives us all the modern appliances we want, great gas mileage going down the roads, will go anywhere our 4WD truck will pull it, minimal expenses and fees, and minimal maintenance. What more could you ask for...

Being in our mid 70s now we will just probably stay with what we got now...

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