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Old 01-05-2017, 10:22 AM   #11
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Wow, been there done that! 3 months in a tent trailer (I looked at pics of the 17 fxd and it brought back memories) with 3 kids under 7 and a medium sized dog, one end of the country to the other and then back. I think BuddyRay had a very good idea. I'd add try to go somewhere different every day. The constant "setting up" and "tearing down" gets old.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:29 AM   #12
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PS - don't mean to discourage you - we all love rv'ing and I imagine there are many who would love to be in a position such as yours and able to do exactly as you are proposing. Just hoping to help make the experience enjoyable and memorable for you and your family.
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Old 01-05-2017, 02:04 PM   #13
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We met a family of 6 that home schooled ( as do we) that had a 23 foot trailer and they were also traveling Missionaries, living full time in the trailer. Kids were all under 10. I was surprised at all the plastic boxes of stuff they had to keep outside all the time so they had room in the trailer for everyone. When they moved and all the boxes were put in the trailer, the family couldn't get in.

So, I agree with the post above, don't get stuck with something that will be too small, It will add to frustrations.
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Old 01-25-2017, 07:28 AM   #14
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Hi, first time poster. I'd like to put in my $0.02

First, thanks to everyone who responded to theadventuresix. I found this to be fantastic thread and got some great ideas for myself.

theadventuresix: are you planning on setting up/tearing down every night? You say you are selling your home and hitting the road, so I have it in my mind that you plan on setting up camp somewheres for weeks at a time and explore the area from there, then move on. How long of a road trip are you planning, a few months, a year, or more?

I too am look at the same model, but for leisure. Excellent choice. We took our first long road trip (2 weeks) with a family of 5 in a pop-up... I was ready to come home after 9 days, lol... quarters were to close, and no where to put gear. Dinning shelter was a saviour.

I would throw in the thought of packing a pup tent and possibly a dinning shelter for the extra room, especially if you plan on being in one spot for a week or more at a time...

Get a slow cooker and learn to be creative and actually use it.

Get solar panels for those times you can't get a site with hookups.

I can't think of anything else that hasn't already been said.. keep us posted on your adventures!
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Old 01-25-2017, 07:47 AM   #15
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Welcome to the forum. Keep us posted on your trailer search and your adventures.
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:06 AM   #16
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First thing that comes to mind is the old 10lbs in a 5lb bag. You said you are not looking for a hotel room on wheels but I would describe what you are proposing as pretty much a hotel room on wheels with a kitchenette. The set up for a family of your size would be great for weekends and summer vacations to where ever, but for full timing it seems like a bad idea. Admittedly I am not a tiny house kind of guy, but just seems like a constant swap of use purpose each day as you switch from sleep mode to eat mode to teach mode to eat mode again and then evening mode in a small single space living area. My wife and I [3 kids and a couple dogs] cut our teeth in a pop up, taking countless fall outings and vacations all over the lower 48; BUT full timing would have lasted less than 48 hours as DW, Dkids, Ddogs, and me wouldn't be speaking in a friendly way.

If you move forward with your plan, you can forget most of the stuff others have suggested since you will not have room for it. You will need sewer hoses, extension cord, water hose, etc but there isn't a huge storage area in the hybrid and your TV will be taxed in tow weight and overall capacity even with the basics. Your set up will basically be a tiny house on wheels pulled by a small Tv that is packed to the gills with stuff, people, and the dog.

Recommendations? I would start with a bigger TV probably a 1500 crew cab pickup with V8 or ecoboost power. You will have a more appropriate TV with space for your stuff in the bed. Personally I would step up to a larger TT with bunkhouse and more room / privacy for the parents. Its the full timing plan that causes me to ?? your plan. Wish you the best!
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:56 AM   #17
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Interesting post and comments. The only thing I would add is to echo other comments about space and weight. I think you will find that many of the items suggested are nice-to-haves rather than must-haves. I suggest getting the required items and putting the rest on a list to buy if and when needed - pretty much everywhere you go will have stores.

Only item on my must-have list not already mentioned is duct tape. I've used it when camping for everything from holding the table cloth on the picnic table to an emergency patch on a fiberglass canoe.
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Old 01-25-2017, 10:21 AM   #18
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I like that camper a lot, one of my favorite hybrids.

Here's a sales video for it if anyone is curious.

Great advise in the above replies, especially the guys that suggested you rent one first. I'm sure you have had the conversations about what your life will be like living in something that small, and you've come to terms with how difficult it can and will be. It's hard to ignore the facts here though. Your kids may be too young to truly understand or appreciate what you are asking of them. Not my place to second guess your decision if you guys are comfortable living that way for extended periods. I will say my family would start killing eachother off within 3 weeks.

Only point I'd make that I didn't see above... may have missed it... none of these hybrids are designed for full timing and your camper is going to take a serious beating doing so. Officially, your warranty is shot when you full time, unofficially, I'm not sure how that can be enforced, but plan on lying about your full timing use when stuff starts breaking if you want it covered. I'm a little envious of what you guys are planning on doing, we also telecommute and could, if desired, give up our 3000 square ft home for my 30+ foot camper, but someone would die. Wish you the best of luck!

Nothing to add on the top 5 items to bring... other than what has already been suggested, you are going to learn first hand what you need in short order.
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My Brother's family, which is about your size, and maybe the kids are a bit older, have looked at the 17xfd with them. We liked the X23F a bit more, as the dinette slideout, gave a a lot more interior floor space, and had a bit more interior storage.

I like our X23B, which is the two bunk version of X23F. I have traveled for up to 3 weeks at a time in ours. I could not foresee living in it for months at a time. One of the things I do love about the hybrid is the bunk windows opening up and being tent like.

A couple things I would recommend doing. Is visiting the dealer, ditching the dealer, dig through all the cabinets and such, think about where will you place all your items. How will you use the space, in different conditions, such as during school hours in bad weather. I would spend about an hour in each tt, that you are seriously considering. with 4 kids, it would not be a bad idea, to bring them possibly on a second trip to the dealer, and let them crawl around the units, and see if you could live in a tight space for days on end in poor weather.

One of the things that lead us to the X23B, as a family of three with a dog, was the ability to "turtle", which is to live in the htt with out opening up the bunk ends. This way we can roll in late at night, stop for lunch, overnight in a Walmart Parking lot without opening up, stay in bear country without worry. If you are just spending the night it is a nice ability especially when you roll into camp and its raining.

HTTs are nice campers, but to live in it for an extended period(s), I'm not convinced it would be the right choice. I know if I had a seasonal site, it would not be my first choice due to the tent ends.

Ultimately it could be a fun adventure, and if you enjoy the life style I could see you up sizing in the future.

Good luck, let us know how else we can help, and ask lots of questions.
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Lot of good points.... my 2.5 cents (more than 5)

1. NAVIGATION... check you're course, you don't want to get under an overpass you can't fit, it'll wreck your trip. there are many apps truckers use to make sure you fit, same if you're stopping to eat. If I can, I google the area to see if I can fit in the parking lot.>>> ALSO keep to the main roads....GOOGLE LIES, the fastest route once put us on a narrow road with our right tires on the white line and the left over the yellow.

2. FUEL (gas/diesel), especially if you have a diesel, don't wait to E to find a source,
A) you might have trouble finding diesel/gas station if you're off the main highways,
B) again you have to fit.

3. SITES Don't always rely on first come first serve or no reservations needed, you might end up being the ones needing a site. Do homework, look at the reviews, look at the Google aerial view, Major Highway / train tracks next to the RV site?? do they have utilities.

4. TANKS, while you save gas mileage by running tanks empty, you/family might have to make an emergency pit stop, having some water will enable use to use the toilet and sink if needed. Also is you're black/grey tanks are full, you might not be able to empty them before you need to use them, empty before you leave a site.

4.5 PROPANE TANKS - if you have 2, run off 1, keep the other one full, once empty switch and get to empty one refilled.

5. INSURANCE Check into road / trailer insurance plans (tires, damage, towing/transportation if you or someone in your party gets sick/injured on the trip and you.

6. Get a system/routine for setting up and take down.

7. WEATHER, hot, cold, rain freezing, high winds etc.

7. Have fun
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