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Old 07-08-2012, 05:02 PM   #11
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Thanks for all the great points and advice. I think the 19h is the way to go with manual awning if I could find it. One thing about the manual awning which i think is better in bad weather when you put the legs down into the ground. Will have to look at one over the summer or fall to check out how much counter is on either side of the sink. Hard to tell in pics. Just want room for a coffee pot and toaster. Already have a stove cover.

Going camping for a week starting on Sat. can't wait even though it's just our 17z but realizing the space is really not too bad and both beds are same size, not sure you get that on the newer ones that are 19h??
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Thanks for all the great points and advice. I think the 19h is the way to go with manual awning if I could find it. One thing about the manual awning which i think is better in bad weather when you put the legs down into the ground. Will have to look at one over the summer or fall to check out how much counter is on either side of the sink. Hard to tell in pics. Just want room for a coffee pot and toaster. Already have a stove cover.

Going camping for a week starting on Sat. can't wait even though it's just our 17z but realizing the space is really not too bad and both beds are same size, not sure you get that on the newer ones that are 19h??
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:50 PM   #13
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If you like your 17Z then I think the 19H would be the way to go. If I needed more room the 19H is the floorplan I would want.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:55 PM   #14
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I cannot comment on any of the TTs other than the X23B. We really like it. There is plenty of room for two adults, two kids, one dog and all our stuff. Lots of counter space. Lots of refrigerator space. Lots of space to put all of our stuff. The AC reaches all of the bunks just fine. Last week it was 100 deg for three days, and we had no issues keeping the TT cool. When we parked it was already 100 deg. We turned on the AC to high and to the coldest setting and within 2 hours it was almost too cold inside. The water was pouring off the roof at a rate probably close to a few gallons an hour. I was concerned the AC would freeze up, but it never did. As for the table we almost always have it rotated 90 degrees, so it is across part of the dinette and in front of the sofa. So getting in and out of the front bunk is really easy. It also makes for a bit more counter space when cooking. The front bunk (as I have been told) has a layer of memory foam, it is very comfortable.

One of the things I would strongly recommend doing, when looking at hybrids, is to sit and lay on the mattresses at the joint where the bunk folds up. Once you do, I fully expect you will look more seriously look at the Jayco options. Every manufacture we tried you could feel the joint, except for the Jayco.

The only thing I would have liked was the manual awning as it was a little bigger.

I have also been a little concerned about the slide. I have never had one, and neither has my parents, so I do not have a lot of experience. The 23B has an 18” slide and it gives just the right amount of added space in my opinion.

23B does not feel big when pulling and stay right behind us with 12k lbs Equalizer bars.

I have done a few mods to utilize the space to meet our needs, such as add shelves to one wardrobe cabinet and added a linen cabinet to utilize the dead zone behind the dinette (I have not posted anything on this).

I to thought this was too big for our needs and I have been extremely happy with our TT choice.
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I'll put in a vote for the X20E. We have two boys ages 8 and 12. What sold us on the X20E over the X19H was (1) the couch slide-out, (2) the U-shaped dinette and (3) the extra storage space.

I felt that both campers would work great for weekend camping, but felt the X20E would be so much better for week-long vacation camping. The slide-out really opens things up inside, and combined with the U-shaped dinette there is a lot of room for us to spread out inside the camper without having to use the beds. The extra storage space lets us stow our clothes out of the way so that we aren't tripping over bags.

As for sleeping, my wife and I have taken the bunk end near the bathroom since it seems more private and saves us from climbing over the dinette. I expected the boys to share the queen bed but most trips so far the older one has slept on the bed and the younger one has slept on the couch. I find the couch to be much easier to fold out for the night than having to deal with the dinette.
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As I type, it is about 90 degrees in Maryland. And a/c is on low and no problem with both bunks being very cool in the 19h!! It works for us! 2 kids/ 2 adults. Storage is the main issue. I will be making a shelf the closet that will be half shelf, half hanging rod.
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we have the 23 J and have no problem with the AC reaching the bunk ends. There is tons of counter space and tons of cabinet space.
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We have a 2012 x20e and love it. It does not have much counter space, so I bought a wooden (cutting board type) cover that was made to cover the stove top. It gives me the extra space I needed. What sold was the couch that slides out as well as the U-Shaped dinette. We recently had 5 adults in the camper for dinner and had more then enough space. For us, we really like the space a slide out gives.

Now, our tow vehicle is a trailblazer so we were limited on weight when choosing.
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I have a 19H too. I looked at the 18, but it has a good bit less cabinet space. The thought of the third bed was appealing till I looked at storage. Not enough room for dishes and everything else.
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We have a 2012 x20e and love it. It does not have much counter space, so I bought a wooden (cutting board type) cover that was made to cover the stove top. It gives me the extra space I needed. What sold was the couch that slides out as well as the U-Shaped dinette. We recently had 5 adults in the camper for dinner and had more then enough space. For us, we really like the space a slide out gives.

Now, our tow vehicle is a trailblazer so we were limited on weight when choosing.
What is the tow rating on your trailblazer? Really like the 20e, but I am concerned about my tow vehicle.
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