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Old 04-23-2011, 12:21 AM   #11
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snip........I have read where any weight behind the rear axle goes toward tongue rate (eHow.com). This doesn't make sense because of the vehicle weight alone behind the axle, though I suppose that could have been built into the calculation. I will have a 135 lb boy riding in the 3rd seat which resides behind the axle so if this is true I'm, well, I'm unhappy. Contrary to that I've read where it is strictly the weight of the trailer tongue. This would mean that my shank, hitch and ball would not count toward tongue weight. I've Googled and Googled and there is a lot of conflicting information.

Yeah, a lot of discussions about that subject matter. IMO (again, just my opinion) I don't believe that it's adding to the actual loaded tongue weight, but more the fact that the WD spring bars may be required to support a percentage (?) of the weight that was "added" to the rear of the TV's rear axle (not all the weight rear of the axle) .

Just supports the rationale that when we CAT scale weigh our TV's to do so under real "loaded" conditions, ready to camp.

I also "think" that the subject matter is focusing on any weight that is "added after" one's loaded TV/TT CAT scale weights and WDH adjustments have been preformed. So if your son's weight wasn't used in your initial CAT scale visits and WDH adjustments, then I could see because of the location of the added 135lbs may impact your WDH adjustments (thus the spring bars are supporting some percentage of the "added" weight).

Definitely a good campfire discussion!



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Old 04-23-2011, 07:53 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Trout34 View Post
tbwill - I appreciate the picture. I know I did not check there, just the wall. That looks like one thing I thought might be a warranty issue that will be no issue at all. I noticed you have a 4 Runner that is probably similar in capabilities to my Pathfinder. Its newer than mine and I can't tell if you have the V8, but how has it been as a TV? Any experience on hills
The 4Runner is a 4.0L V6 with 270 HP and 278 lb/ft Torque, pretty similar to the Nissan V6. So far it has towed pretty well. We have only had the trailer out three times, one was over to the coast at Morro Bay, just had to climb over the coast range of hills, no problem. Another trip was up to New Melones reservoir in the foothills, again no problem. The first trip we took was up to the Sierra National Forest at Dinky Creek Campground. That involved a climb from about 300 ft in Fresno to 6000 ft. The 4Runner handled it pretty well. The first part of the trip involves a 4 lane highway climbing to about 4000 ft and I was able to maintain 45 to 55 mph depending on the grade. After that it's a two lane winding road and I was able to keep enough speed up to prevent traffic from backing up behind me.

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Old 06-17-2011, 07:28 AM   #13
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I just pulled my X17Z to Florida and back (1,000 miles round trip) with a GMC 1500 5.3 ltr. I use no sway control or LD and it pulls fine. I tend to keep it no faster than 60.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:43 PM   #14
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My husband and I just took a trip from New York to Colorado with our 2,011 17C, which we bought last fall. We pull it with a 2,009 Nissan. It is our first RV and we knew nothing about hitching or leveling and backing up was really hard for my hubby, at first. We practiced by camping a few hours from our home a few times in the fall. There was a lot to learn but slowly my husband got the hang of it. I want to tow it but he wants to get really good before he lets me try so he drove all the way to Colorado and back while I got to enjoy the scenery. That was a great deal!!! Maybe I should just pretend to be too scared to drive when we tow LOL!

The trip to Colorado went well, except for the flat we got on the RV in Denver. Our insurance company sent out someone really quick to change it. When we went to buy another spare, the tire dealer said he has not seen tires like we had on the 17C in years. They were 4 ply and not belted. They were not even balanced. We bought new radials and had no problems on the return trip.

Our Nissan Xterra is rated for 5,000 lbs and can only tow something that is 18 feet long or less, which the 17C is. We have sway control and did not have any problem passing trucks. You could feel something in very, very high winds but the sway control worked perfectly. I am sure you should not have a problem with the Pathfinder towing the 17C. My hubby tends to drive pretty fast and the roads out West are often 70 or 75 MPH. He usually did 65 without any trouble. My husband found also leveling hard at first, but now he is an "expert"

I see you asked about weighing. We did not weigh because we don't know how or where. I saw lots of signs out West about truck scales, though. I am hoping to learn to do it by reading these posts.

We did have a problem at first with the tents leaking a little in very heavy rains. Also one came off the track when we camped in the fall but our dealer fixed it right away.

We really love the 17C, especially since we don't have to open the tent ends when we stop just for a night on a long trip. The dining room table converts to a double extra long bed. Our three dogs sleep at the end and we are comfortable. Our kids are all grown so they don't come with us but when we got to Colorado some of them came from NY and California to my daughter's house, too, and since she only had one spare bedroom two of them slept in our RV with us - so the extra beds came in handy.

Let me know how you like it when you take a few more trips. I really think you will love it. If you have any questions about it that I can answer, I will be happy to try.

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