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Old 09-26-2013, 11:38 PM   #11
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@wmoses, You have a X17Z with a 3500# axle rating? If so, what year is your HTT? I just picked up my 2014 and it is rated at 3000#.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:21 AM   #12
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Shouldn't the battery be included in the shipping weight or did you add an extra battery?....snip
The RV dealership supplies the battery..., thus not included in the Ship Weight or CCC (yellow sticker).

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@wmoses, You have a X17Z with a 3500# axle rating? If so, what year is your HTT? I just picked up my 2014 and it is rated at 3000#.
It was a 2010 and the paperwork is all gone to the new owner, but I recall the Dexter axle rating as being 3500#.

UPDATE: Here is the sticker from the side of the RV. It says 3300# but I am sure that the axle that was on the trailer was a 3500# axle.

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Shouldn't the battery be included in the shipping weight or did you add an extra battery?

I think 350 lbs is more stuff then you might think. Just don't get carried away thinking you must have everything with your "just in case". Just bring what you need and beware the slippery slope of always adding more things.
No, b/c its not shipped from the factory w/ a battery on it. The dealer puts that on. The yellow sticker is the weight 'out the door' from the factory which includes the propane tanks and what they would be if filled up.
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Did you include the weight of passengers and cargo in the tow vehicle? they are all added to your tow weight. The drivers weight is taken as 150 lbs so if you weigh more than that add that as well.
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In this case my owners manual for my truck is rather specific (I think anyway).

It lists out how much they are giving for passenger weight and how much 'stuff' they put in the truck with them.

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The corresponding weight limits assume occupants fill seats from the front of the vehicle to the back, each occupant weighs 150 lbs (70 kg), and each has 15 lbs (7 kg) of cargo in the cab, pickup bed, or In-Bed Trunk. Any additional weight, including cargo or accessories, reduces the maximum trailer weight and maximum tongue load.
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I weigh 200, my wife weighs 135, and my 2 girls weigh 45 and 40. So --> 2.8 'Honda People'

At 3 Honda people I am allowed 4750lbs of tow weight and still 600 lbs on the tongue. Still well within the max trailer weight my X17Z would have in it by 1250 pounds.

That is the math that led me to the X17Z. I will have it weighed out and tested at the dealer before I pull her home, and I also will have a test drive with them to make sure it behaves while on the road.
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snip....... I will have it weighed out and tested at the dealer before I pull her home, and I also will have a test drive with them to make sure it behaves while on the road.
Don't forget that upon departing the dealership you are under "unloaded" TV/HTT conditions....., in most cases if you are using a WDH it will have to be re-adjusted under "loaded" TV/HTT conditions (the dealer can't "pre" adjust for an unknown loaded condition) .

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Happily my truck did not need the WDH. Like the owner's manual stated, I wouldn't need one and it was right. Very happy about that part.
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