X17Z - where to put clothes?

[bbkdea]

I am interested in removing the upholstered panel under the sofa. Can anyone tell me how you did it?

[ryanb-72]

If you lift the bottom of the sofa like you are going to make it into bed you should see two or three attachment points connected to the round bar under the seat. should be able to just unscrew those and panel is removed. shouldn't be more than 4-6 screws. Hope that makes sense.
Ryan

[bbkdea]

That does make sense! Thank you for your response. I will try it as soon as we get ours out of storage!

[Tunce the traveler]

Originally Posted by ryanb-72

If you lift the bottom of the sofa like you are going to make it into bed you should see two or three attachment points connected to the round bar under the seat. should be able to just unscrew those and panel is removed. shouldn't be more than 4-6 screws. Hope that makes sense.
Ryan

On mine it's just 3 attachment places and 3 wing nuts. It's a great storage location and mine just swings up without raising the bottom cushion. I think the 1st owner put the wing nuts on and shortened that bottom panel so it just flips up.

[Leedawg84]

Congrats on your new trailer. For now,wife and I keep a duffle bag on couch at night and bed during the day but I saw a mod that a guy did and he cut openings on side of table benches and installed cabinet doors for his clothes. I'm going to be doing this soon for extra storage.

[Leedawg84]

im going to be doing these mods very soon

[bucko]

In many campgrounds, I've seen a small tent erected behind our small hybrids. I often wondered who drew the small straw and had to sleep in the tent while others slept in the camper. I then met one of these families and presented this question. They laughed and said everyone sleeps in the camper and that the tent is used to store the clothes and other "stuff" they brought along that the family needed or kids "had to have".

I use my truck (supercab) for any "additionals" I don't want to clutter the camper with; the tent idea would also be good if the tow vehicle is too small to carry everything though.

[FlyingPenguin]

Originally Posted by gaylec

Hubs and I each have a duffel bag for our clothes. During the day they are on the beds, at night on the dinette benches. It's a simple system, but it works well for us.

X2.

During the day our bags of clothes are on the beds and we move them to the dinette benches or the couch. I love our 2013 X17Z ...my only negative feeling about it is that there is no closet space. But I know that you can't get everything in a smaller trailer.

[BluJay]

Here's our solution (carried forward from our popup days). Needless to say, we didn't use the location for a TV.

[secal48]

We have a couple of over the door hangers that we hook onto the bathroom door. One inside the bathroom for hangers with shirts and a 3 hook decorative one on the outside of the door for dog leashes, flashlights, hats, raincoats, etc. The only problem was that the door is so thin that we had to use several felts pads to reduce the width of the hook to stay snug. The non hanging clothes go into small duffle bags that sit along the sides of the beds. Our trips are generally just the 2 of us and our dog, but our kids and grand-kids sometimes come with also so we've had a full house at times. But it's all good around the campfire.

[bbkdea]

So I have looked at the panel under the sofa and on the 2015 model, I don't see any screws or staples. Do we just pull hard to pry it off? Any ideas? We cannot see how it is fastened on because the panel is upholstered right up to where it is attached to the framing.

[WNYcamper]

Originally Posted by Maggie Muffin

+ 1 on this.

We had three plastic pins under the sofa to store bedding while travelling. Removed the panel from the front and now those bins (empty when camping) are perfect for storing our clothing once we've set up camp.

Perfect solution for us....

Originally Posted by clossan1

I removed the upholstered panel underneath the sofa and now I can fit 3-4 bins for our clothes.

so this panel doesn't actually hold any weight? What supports the bottom half of the sofa when you sit on it?

[campersam9]

We store our clothing in three bins. We live all winter in Florida and we need warm clothing for the ride home and down. We go to the laundromat every 5 days. Wash more pack less.

[DigitalFusion]

Originally Posted by FlyingPenguin

my only negative feeling about it is that there is no closet space. But I know that you can't get everything in a smaller trailer.

Thats the thing I do not get about these newer models. Our last TT was an old 03 Kiwi 18F hybrid that we only just recently replaced. It was actually shorter than the x17z models at 18' 2" versus 18' 9", but had a ton more storage, including a wardrobe that was large enough to put carry-on sized luggage stacked at the bottom and still be able to hang clothing (rain coats, light jackets, etc) above, a large pantry, a deeper fridge, a large shower with deep pan, and a generously sized exterior cargo hatch. We actually had a few of the overhead cabinets that we never used

We love the compact size of the 17's, but we just couldn't sacrifice the storage. Even our x19h at 20' 10" still has less storage than our old Kiwi. Floor plans of the 18F, 17z, and 19h for reference:

[SteveMM]

We have a 17z as well. When the whole family is camping, we tend to leave our extra clothes in the car (inside luggage or whatever it's carried in) until needed. At night before bed, we'll pull out the next day's outfit and bring it inside. When it's just me and my wife, our bags go on the back bunk.

[Jagiven]

Originally Posted by DigitalFusion

Thats the thing I do not get about these newer models. Our last TT was an old 03 Kiwi 18F hybrid that we only just recently replaced. It was actually shorter than the x17z models at 18' 2" versus 18' 9", but had a ton more storage, including a wardrobe that was large enough to put carry-on sized luggage stacked at the bottom and still be able to hang clothing (rain coats, light jackets, etc) above, a large pantry, a deeper fridge, a large shower with deep pan, and a generously sized exterior cargo hatch. We actually had a few of the overhead cabinets that we never used

We love the compact size of the 17's, but we just couldn't sacrifice the storage. Even our x19h at 20' 10" still has less storage than our old Kiwi. Floor plans of the 18F, 17z, and 19h for reference:

The 17Z was the first HTT we looked at. On the surface, we really liked the overall size and concept. First thing we truly noticed was the lack of storage to place cloths and the like.

Hence we went with the 23B. Lots of good storage and space to move around on rainy days.

[BT43]

Clothes bags are always a (minor) issue for us in our 17z. What has worked best for us is to setup our old 4 man tent and use that as our clothes storage and "changing room". Of course this only works if the campground allows or has space to do so.

[RatsKat]

Originally Posted by WASABI

Hi Sophie, we usually camp at Provincial Parks which means only electric is provided. There would be no way we would have enough water to include showers. If you were at a full facility camp ground you would be OK. The tanks are not big enough. Usually we park near the park bathrooms so my older kids use those bathrooms to preserve the water we do have.

That was my thought as well, not enough water. Save it for the toilet, and even then if it can wait I would go to the park washroom, especially for #2 haha