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08-17-2014, 08:38 AM
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need help on how to repair front side separation
Hi. This is our first post. I've been reading alot of info on the forum and I hope someone can give us some help on our problem. We bought a 2004 Jay Flight 27 BH. We knew going in that the camper had some water damage to the front end side corner. We just recently had the roof totally resealed. Now to address this issue. The trim is separating from the camper and upon inspecting closer, we have found out that the wood is rotten on the side and the floor, in the corner. We don't want a temporary fix but would like to rebuild where there is rotted wood and make it sturdy again. Has anyone had this problem and done a repair in this area? Sure would like to hear some input. I'm working on getting some pics. Just haven't tore into it yet. We are doing a lot of research before tackling this job. We want to do this right. Thanks.
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08-19-2014, 10:37 AM
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update for water damage issue
After doing some research and watching a few repair videos, we have decided to let someone else do the work for us. We have found a guy that has experience in restoring RVs. He has very good reviews from past customers. We are taking our camper to him, in the "off season" and we will be involved in the step by step process of restoring "Momma J". I plan to take pics of this process from start to finish. I'll breathe easier when this is all over, but it must be done 'cause it's not going to get better and I'm not wanting a temp. fix.
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08-19-2014, 05:14 PM
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Firstly Welcome to JOF. Sorry to hear of your issues despite taking a gamble on it. Hopefully you have already had a chance to enjoy it. I guess the good news is you may have covered storage for the Winter, LOL
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08-21-2014, 07:24 PM
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Thanks for the welcome! I don't regret buying the Jayflight. I love older campers. The damage is not too bad. It can be fixed. The roof is in great shape. New coating, caulking has been applied. Just need to get the front corner addressed and we'll be okay.
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08-21-2014, 09:10 PM
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I would also check the roof/wall seam very closely, there was some issues with seam allowing moisture to get trapped along the gutter rail. Once the moisture found the screws holding the gutter rail to the wood frame it also found the fleece backing on the TPO roofing material wicking the moisture.., and the moisture also got into the wall structure.
Look for any raised "dimples" on the ceiling and/or interior walls...., means moisture has been present.
Being a front corner issue, check the marker lights, they are notorious for letting moisture in.
Haven't actually worked on one myself, but did have my TT repaired (new roof, entry wall, rear wall, and flooring) under warranty for the above referenced problem.
Just food for thought.
Bob
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09-09-2014, 04:55 PM
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Thanks Rustic Eagle and Dagwood. Luckily we don't have any dimples. And we are way ahead of you concerning the marker lights. Every outside light, window and seam have been re-caulked. We have camped about 3 times but I don't like the side separating. I know it must be addressed because it will not get any better. The guy is going to start to work on it in the next 2 weeks. I'm excited about seeing the process and getting the camper back for some late Fall camping.
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09-09-2014, 06:21 PM
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Campit,
Thanks for the follow up
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snip.... I plan to take pics of this process from start to finish......snip
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Yes, it will be interesting to see them when the repair is completed. I did the same when I had a major rebuild preformed by Jayco (under warranty) do to a moisture intrusion issue.
Bob
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10-05-2014, 10:58 AM
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Update on repair
Hello everyone. Took our camper to have the water damage repaired this week. I took some pics before it went. We caulked the sides to keep any more water out. We did some camping but I was very concerned about the camper's side coming off when going down the highway. So glad it's being repaired.
Here are some pics of what it looks like. When he opens up the front, I'll post those pics also.
This bolt that holds the corner floor to the frame had come all the way down. Hubby attached a tie to the bolt to hold the side so the side would not separate any more than it had.
This is the water damage in the upright corner, inside the front storage area.
This is the front, right, outside. It had started to separate as well. I caulked the heck out of this as well.
This is the front, left side, outside. This is where the side is really separated. I caulked the heck out of this too. This is the side that concerned me the most when traveling.
Campit
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10-05-2014, 02:31 PM
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Looking forward to seeing the end result. Keep us posted and good luck!
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10-05-2014, 06:34 PM
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pics of water damage
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10-05-2014, 10:23 PM
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Thanks for the update. Keep us posted.
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10-06-2014, 08:05 AM
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Yes. The wonderful world of moisture. Water causes havoc to all RVs. You either get wood frame rotting, or delamination. Fiberglass delamination is actually harder to repair (but with the aluminum framing, usually the framework remains strong. The inside falls apart). The wood frames rot, but is actually easier to remove the aluminum skin, rebuild the woodwork, and reapply the skin.
Good luck on the repair. It can be repaired to look as it was never damaged.
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10-06-2014, 08:41 PM
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Informative pics, thanks for sharing your progress. I agree, a bit rough due to the combo of water intrusion and materials Jayco used in construction but very repairable.
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10-10-2014, 05:48 PM
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Thanks for being supportive, guys. Going this weekend to see how it's coming along. Hope to get some pics to share. Thank goodness it can be repaired. And I consider myself very lucky to have found someone nearby to restore it without breaking my pocketbook.
Campit
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10-13-2014, 09:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qwed94
Yes. The wonderful world of moisture. Water causes havoc to all RVs. You either get wood frame rotting, or delamination. Fiberglass delamination is actually harder to repair (but with the aluminum framing, usually the framework remains strong. The inside falls apart). The wood frames rot, but is actually easier to remove the aluminum skin, rebuild the woodwork, and reapply the skin.
Good luck on the repair. It can be repaired to look as it was never damaged.
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Regarding the aluminum framing remaining strong...we had a leak on the front roof seam of our 5th wheel, caught it fairly quickly but I can feel a soft spot on the wall behind the bed. Our camper will never move from it's seasonal spot at the campground. Is there any way to stabilize the wood within the framing from the inside of the camper without removing the outside skin?
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10-13-2014, 01:04 PM
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Sure. you can remove the inside skin. That might be easier actually, The walls are put up with either staples or nails (nail gun-short finish type nails). They can usually be pryed out. Replace the rotted wood, then replace any wet insulation, and finally re-attach the wall boards. Or replace the wall boards, if they are rotten also. Problem is finding wall boards that match with existing ones.
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10-13-2014, 01:23 PM
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Thanks for the info qwed94! Hubby can deal with replacing the wall boards if we need to, he's pretty handy. Might be nice to get rid of the stock vinyl walls in there anyway! Great advice!!!
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10-14-2014, 06:27 PM
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repair process continued
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10-14-2014, 08:01 PM
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10-15-2014, 03:19 AM
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Thanks WVDusty. "Momma Jay" is going to be rebuilt better than factory-made up front.
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