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Old 10-15-2015, 11:09 AM   #1
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Question Water damage or something else?

Bumping around the 5th I noticed the trim around the overhead cabinets looks like it's been getting wet. The first pic is looking at the rear wall. The trim is below the center section of cabinets and the problem is where the trim touches the rear wall. The second pic is a close up of the damage.
My first reaction is that i have a leak but I can't find any other evidence of water in the area. I've checked the fireplace below and inside the cabinets above and don't see any other damage or water stains.
Very interested in your opinions!

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Ok here's the second pic.

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Grrrrr! Pic is upside down.
Anyway, what do you think?
Also, any idea of the source of this trim?
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Old 10-15-2015, 11:30 AM   #3
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Ok here's the second pic.

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Grrrrr! Pic is upside down.
Anyway, what do you think?
Also, any idea of the source of this trim?
RH, try giving Jayco a call and ask them who they get the trim from. When I needed something similar, they provided me with the name of the vendor.
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Old 10-15-2015, 11:50 AM   #4
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Moisture caused from low air circulation? Especially if you have a fireplace going on a cool night? Just a guess.
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Old 10-15-2015, 01:10 PM   #5
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Qua, yeah, good idea.

Dag, maybe. We've used the "fireplace" only a couple of times so I'm doubtful that's part of the puzzle. Trying to figure out the condensation angle. Haven't found any similar issues elsewhere and haven't seen any condensation on the walls.

At this point a leak is my most likely culprit but haven't seen any other indications.
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Old 10-15-2015, 01:46 PM   #6
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Could something that rode in the cabinet have spilled and caused this? Nobody is fessing to it.
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Old 10-15-2015, 01:57 PM   #7
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Good one Cosmic but doubtful. The same trim piece on both sides of the cabinet are doing this. We've had no liquids stored up there. The unit was "last year's" model and I was thinking it leaked while on the lot and was dealer repaired but that means it's been like this for almost 2 years that we've owned it. So I'll give that one a maybe also.
I think my next move is to the roof with the hose.
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If you open up the cabinet doors and look very carefully with a bright flash light, do you see any staining along the top of the cabinets where the wall meets the ceiling?

Do you see any staining or any discoloration along the inside bottom of the cabinets?

The trim certainly looks like it has water damage. Jayco may be able to sell you an equivalent piece. Or, you could look in the trim sections of Home Depot or Lowes; they may have something that would work - and be cheaper and available sooner.

But better determine first what caused the issue.
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Old 10-15-2015, 02:35 PM   #9
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Can you tell if the trim is a foam covered with vinyl? I have some in my rig that is easily "dented" just from something banging on it and it was not very solid.
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Old 10-15-2015, 02:56 PM   #10
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I would bet on the condensation from the fireplace idea - gas fireplaces are notorious for putting off condensation. It wouldn't take many uses to get some damage. I would burn it and see if that piece feels damp before replacing it. Check to see if the valance is damp too when you do it.
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Electric fireplaces don't create any more condensation than any other electric heat source.
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Electric fireplaces don't create any more condensation than any other electric heat source.
Didn't realize it was electric - was thinking of gas... I've never seen a fireplace in a camper.
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Didn't realize it was electric - was thinking of gas... I've never seen a fireplace in a camper.
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Yeah, the FP is electric and its been used only a couple of times.
I've been over the cabinets inside and out with a bright light and have found nothing. I also got on the roof with the hose and gave everything a serious spray with nothing showing up inside.
So I'm puzzled.
Looking over the caulk I think it is needing some attention but doesn't seem to be the source of the leak, I hit it hard with the spray and I couldn't find any soft spots on the roof or inside walls.

One more thing, thanks for your input!!!
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The moulding the factory uses is an mdf material with a wood print so it sucks up condensation and expands with very little moisture. Since you have seen no other damage and since the cut part of the moulding is right up against the outside wall, my take would be that it is sucking up moisture (condensation) when it's cold outside and the heat is on inside. Heat from the furnace or people (not the fireplace ). Do you camp with the gas furnace on and the windows closed tightly? If so, that would by my thought...
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We do a little cool weather camping but use electric heat almost exclusively. Have run the furnace maybe once in anger. Always leave a vent open in cool weather. Starting to think about the window below. If it leakes at the top possibly the moisture wicks its way up. The valence just below may be warping a bit. Hosing the window is next.
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The next page in this saga.
I've sprayed the window with no leaks showing up. The bride suggests I hose down the back corners heavily as she has noticed the sealant is curling a bit where it oozed out during construction.
I'm sure I'll have an "ah-ha" moment eventually but till then it's a puzzler.
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Since water travels down hill and there is no evidence of water above it this one has Crabman stumped . At first I thought it was below the window and was getting ready to blame that but then saw the pic was upside down.
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Since water travels down hill and there is no evidence of water above it this one has Crabman stumped . At first I thought it was below the window and was getting ready to blame that but then saw the pic was upside down.
Yeah Crab, The window is below the damage. My last thoughts were maybe the window was leaking at the top and the moisture was wicking up behind the window valence but I hosed it down good and nothing showed up inside. The corners leaking are a bit of a long shot but I suppose possible and certainly worth a check.
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I can almost guarantee it's a bad weatherstrip around the window. Check the weatherstrip.
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