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Old 05-08-2021, 08:56 PM   #1
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Wheel wiggle

I was going to add some fresh grease to my ez lube wheel. After jacking up the wheel i tested for looseness I found I have a small wiggle. I ask some bystanders and was told a slight wiggle is normal but mine was too much. Its a 2013 23.5 HT. Does anyone comment about the wiggle thats acceptable
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Old 05-08-2021, 09:03 PM   #2
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A slight wiggle is normal. I you shouldn't be able to see the wiggle, only feel it.
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Old 05-08-2021, 11:49 PM   #3
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I would check the spindle nut and make sure it was assembled correctly. After changing my bearings a few years ago I found one wheel had too much wiggle and realized I had not rotated the wheel when I had tightened it.
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Old 05-09-2021, 12:17 AM   #4
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This video from Timken shows the whole process on bearings. At about 4 1/2 minutes in, it shows how to properly tighten the axle nut with a torque wrench, and how much to back it off.

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This video from Timken shows the whole process on bearings. At about 4 1/2 minutes in, it shows how to properly tighten the axle nut with a torque wrench, and how much to back it off.

Thats a pretty high tech way way of adjusting the bearings.I never have used a dial indicator.

Keep in mind that not all bearing/spindle assembles use that type of nut retainer.
The common ones just use a castle nut and cotter pin.So when the nut is backed off the cotter pin can only go thru the slot in the nut that lines up with the hole in the spindle.
Cant really adjust it to get .001" to .005" play.
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Old 05-09-2021, 07:26 AM   #6
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Better to be too loose than too tight.
My utility trailer has one side that is borderline too loose. But if you tighten it to the next flat on the nut it's too tight. Too much drag. It's been that way since it was new. I keep it on the loose side and have towed it all over God's green earth unloaded, loaded, and overloaded and no issues. It's still that way today and its 25yrs old.
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Thats a pretty high tech way way of adjusting the bearings.I never have used a dial indicator.

Keep in mind that not all bearing/spindle assembles use that type of nut retainer.
The common ones just use a castle nut and cotter pin.So when the nut is backed off the cotter pin can only go thru the slot in the nut that lines up with the hole in the spindle.
Cant really adjust it to get .001" to .005" play.
Yeah, that the most technical video I ever seen, and, no, I don't use a dial indicator. I'm used to the castle nut and cotter pin set up too. I've done it so much by feel over the years that it's second nature on how much to tighten and back off the nut. I give the wheels a wiggle when they're in the air for greasing, and they seem to all have the same amount of play, and I check the hub temperature at every stop with a laser thermometer.
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Too tight, and when the bearings heat up they expand, making it even tighter... and running hotter, until it finally fails.
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I learned to adjust the bearings by feel, can’t remember who showed me tho. But at 70 there’s lots of stuff I don’t remember.
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Old 05-12-2021, 11:04 AM   #10
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To answer your question:
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Does anyone comment about the wiggle thats acceptable?
From eTrailer.com -

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Install Washer and Nut:

Next, install the spindle washer and tang washer (if necessary).
Then install the castle nut.
Tighten the nut until it stops or becomes snug.
Rock the hub and push in to make sure the hub is fully seated onto the spindle.
Then tighten the castle nut a little more.



Nut Adjustment
Final Castle Nut Adjustment:

To make sure the hub is seated properly, back off the castle nut until it is loose.
Then tighten the castle nut snugly until it stops.
Look to see where the cotter pin hole lines up with one of the notches on the nut.
On hubs that use the tang washer or cage to lock the nut, you will have to do this by sight.
Then back the nut off one notch, so that the cotter pin will fit through the castle nut.
Install the cotter pin and then spin and rock the hub.
When you rock the hub you should feel the hub barely moving front to back.
Try experimenting by loosening the castle nut one more notch to feel the difference in the play in the hub.
Then install the wheel and rock the hub again.
On the outside edge of the tire, the movement should not be more than 1/4" inch.
Any play should be barely noticeable.

When you are satisfied with the adjustment, secure the cotter pin.
Push the pin through the hole on the end of the spindle and through the notches on the nut.
Then split the bottom of the pin to the left and right.
https://www.etrailer.com/faq-wheelbearingpack.aspx
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