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Old 04-17-2016, 10:33 PM   #21
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That's exactly the same splice as my '14 37RB. Never was comfortable with it. So it seems the RB and FK had the splice and the TS and FS don't?
Looking at my 2014 brochure the TS and the FS both have a 275" wheelbase whereas the RB is 270-1/2" and the FK is 268-1/2". The listed overall length is also the same on the FS and TS and the other two are shorter. I wonder if they shortened the RB and FK frames versus stretching the others?

It seems like a lot of trouble to go through for the minimal difference in length. I wonder what caused them to go to that expense?
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Old 04-17-2016, 10:49 PM   #22
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LSA376. That's what I thought might be the case.
Rob, who knows?
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I know it has been a little while since any discussion on the frame modification issue, but I remembered we have a Freightliner sticker on the driver's side visor. It does specify what the truck's wheelbase was from the factory.

Mine as you can see is 275", exactly what the 2014 TS model was advertised by Jayco. But I wonder if there is a difference in the numbers on the models that appear to have the splice?
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I knew the information was there because I have looked at the sticker some time ago, but I did not think about comparing the two.
Thanks for the information. Sam
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Old 05-03-2016, 05:25 AM   #25
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Hello Everybody,

Here is my 2016 FK wheelbase length. It's the same wheelbase as Rob's, I guess Jayco had a company shorten the frame. Not sure why.

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Old 10-31-2016, 01:31 PM   #26
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Hello everyone. I am looking to get a 2016 Seneca 37FS. The 2016 I am looking at has air brakes, but I am finding that the 2015 has Power ABS Brakes. As I understand it, the air brakes are far superior, however, there is a new 2015 model year for sale in Texas for $149,995 vs the 2016 fo $164,995 at my local dealership. Can anyone with the 2015 with the Power Brakes advise if the air brakes are worth spending the extra money for the 2016? Also, I am having a hard time finding a comparison sheet from the 2015 to the 2016 model year to see what improvements were made if anyone could help with that I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
I have a 2015 37ts that you can buy and save a lot of money on. I just did a 4500 mile trip where I did have an emergency stop with a Dingy (no brakes on Dingy 97 wrangler.) I had no issue. The Seneca is a light coach for its size, maybe 23000 empty and 28000 fully loaded. I do not think that is out of the hydraulic brake range at all. I am the previous owner of many 50000 pound coaches that I do agree needed air brakes, but not my Seneca for my use.
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If you have an Illinois address and register in Illinois you only have plate cost and a $25 fee based on coach weight.
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We have the 2015 Freightliner with the 2016 Jayco cabin on our 37FS. We have been living in it, almost continuously since October of 2015. Very satisfied with braking capability with little over 10,000 miles and the truck cab seats are very comfortable.
Purchased ours from Evan at MH2GO in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I can't say enough about my satisfaction with this dealership. They've answered every question, handled every minor warranty claim that came with a new unit and have become good friends. Very pleased that we did our homework before the purchase and found the unit we wanted.
I have the same thing Ric, a 2015 Freightliner with the 2016 HJ. Kinda felt bamboosaled when I didn't have air ride seats and air ride all around. Found out later about the "real" 2016's. All's been good though. Don't know if it can ride any better for a truck.
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I was told by someone, that there was some problems with the 2016 air ride seats and the new models are back to the non-air seats. For the life of me I can't remember where I heard or read that. Can anyone verify one way or another?

On the air brakes versus the drums, is there a licensing difference? I have the impression the air brakes require a license upgrade, CDL or non commercial equivalent. l've got the same license I've had since 1975. Had a CDL when I drove a dump truck on my first job, but nothing like that since.
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I was told by someone, that there was some problems with the 2016 air ride seats and the new models are back to the non-air seats. For the life of me I can't remember where I heard or read that. Can anyone verify one way or another?

On the air brakes versus the drums, is there a licensing difference? I have the impression the air brakes require a license upgrade, CDL or non commercial equivalent. l've got the same license I've had since 1975. Had a CDL when I drove a dump truck on my first job, but nothing like that since.
Licensing depends on the particular state where you reside, but most states exempt non-commercial motorhomes from CDL licensing requirements, regardless of weight or if they have air brakes or not. I have read there are some states that do have stricter requirements, someone once linked a table that had all state's requirements.

Even though my '14 Seneca has hydraulic brakes (4-wheel discs) compared to the 4-wheel air drum brakes on newer Senecas, I will get back on my soapbox regarding air brakes as I have done previously. I strongly advise any person driving an air brake-equipped motorhome to get some basic training in how they work. They are different than traditional hydraulic brakes, and what you don't know may hurt you. Since generally a CDL is not required, that creates a knowledge "gap" normally bridged by CDL training and testing.
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