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10-22-2024, 04:37 PM
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Another tire Question
Yes i have read all the tire threads on this forum. They help a bunch.
But, looking for updated answers.
Replacing 6 tires 225/75-r16 (e rated) on my class c with 1 of these 3 tires:
Michelin Agilis cross climate Commercial (DT) Est $2277.00
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Michelin agilis cross climate est $1896.00
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Michelin XPS Rib est $2742.00
Probably not interested in other brands even though toyo open country h/t is only $1462.00
What do you all think?
Thanks in advance,
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10-22-2024, 04:43 PM
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I put Toyos and they are wonderful. Or would have picked Michelin rib tire!
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10-22-2024, 06:24 PM
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Michelin agilis cross climate est $1896.00
Did research, and am happy with them
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10-22-2024, 06:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ttlanders
I put Toyos and they are wonderful. Or would have picked Michelin rib tire!
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I've seen this term "rib tire" used occasionally. I've never heard it until this forum. What is a rib tire?
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10-22-2024, 09:42 PM
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Original poster here.
i dont know what the rib tire is. i have seen it. tread pattern is just straight ribs. supposed to be a good tire. thats why i am asking about these 3
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10-23-2024, 07:52 AM
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Open Country H/T are getting replaced in the spring with another set of same. First time in 40 years I've done a 'same for same' with tires. A worthy tire for pavement driving. Not an RV, but I put Michelin Cross Climate on the wife's CRV and they were the most annoying loud buzzing tires we've ever dealt with.
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10-23-2024, 09:44 AM
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I just replaced all mine with Michelin Agilis Cross Climate this past summer. Drove from CA to TX and back and they were very smooth. No complaints here. Going out to TX was towing a car on a Uhaul auto transport.
Took one of the inside tire from the dually to replace my spare wheel with.
If you have the TPMS, they would have to reprogram for each wheel, unless they know which rim went where. I had the tires replaced at Costco. You have to order them in advance.
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10-24-2024, 06:02 PM
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Thanks for all the input.
Looks like the Agilis Cross Climate are the ones to get.
Thanks,
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10-31-2024, 10:45 AM
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Probably too late, but I'm going to +1 the Michelin RIBs. They're a commercial grade tire. I have the Agilis on my steer axle, and recently installed the RIBs on the drive axle. I didn't know about the RIBs when I had to replace the steer axle tires while out on a trip. Haven't had a really long trip with them yet, but oh, what a difference!
ETA, I like the Agilis as well. I'm a pretty big Michelin fan since they've been the best tires I've ever owned. Been using them almost exclusively for several years.
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10-31-2024, 02:05 PM
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Camper Bob,
no not too late, thanks for the feedback. i have not bought tires yet. but will be buying them before next trip. i will keep the ribs in mind, as they were on my list.
thanks
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11-02-2024, 11:54 AM
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our 2019 class c has hankook 225/75r16's (e), 10 ply. 17,000 miles negligible wear and no issues. when time comes will replace with same tire
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11-02-2024, 12:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cherv
our 2019 class c has hankook 225/75r16's (e), 10 ply. 17,000 miles negligible wear and no issues. when time comes will replace with same tire
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I know you know this, but for others on the forum, when it comes to RV tires, it's more often age that dictates replacement, not wear. A 2019 might have tires from 2018 - making them 6 years old now.
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11-02-2024, 12:41 PM
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Don't forget there are MAJOR differences between ST type tires found on most RV trailers and LT type tires that come on most Class-C Motorhomes.
LT type tires have more test requirements from DOT than do ST type.
Also tires in trailer application are subjected to Interply Shear forces that run 24% or higher Interply Shear which is the main force that causes Belt Detachments.
So you can't apply the same general comments on "durability" of ST tires on trailers vs LT tires on Motorhomes.
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11-02-2024, 02:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cherv
our 2019 class c has hankook 225/75r16's (e), 10 ply. 17,000 miles negligible wear and no issues. when time comes will replace with same tire
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Hankook recommends replacing tires after TEN years regardless of tread wear.
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11-02-2024, 05:12 PM
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Yes 10 Years max age, no matter what the visual examination finds or doesn't find, is common for all tire companies that publish data books.
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11-02-2024, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tireman9
Yes 10 Years max age, no matter what the visual examination finds or doesn't find, is common for all tire companies that publish data books.
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Goodyear, which I consider an excellent company states on their website that SIX year old tires should be replaced regardless of tread wear or condition. Hankook, Michelin, Continental, Bridgestone and BF Goodrich, all excellent companies and tires, say TEN years. Of course regular, inflation, rotation and inspection are always recommended. I always follow the manufacturer recommendations so my SIX year old (2) Goodyear spare tires, 0 miles, in perfect condition are junk. If the 2 unused tires were any of the previously mentioned brands they could be safely used for up to four more years according to the manufacturers. I have a work van and a lightly used 2019 pickup with only 22,000 miles on it. I will be replacing my SIX year old Goodyear tires on the pickup soon but not with Goodyears.
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11-02-2024, 09:01 PM
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Nothing wrong with replacing your tires at 6 years. The 10 year thing is a stated MAX no matter what is or is not found during inspection. If GY is suggesting 6 MAX then that is their advice and I would not go against their suggestion.
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11-03-2024, 07:19 AM
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Went with the Aglis commercial that has the 121 load rating and seem to handle really well. Very happy with them. Got them first of Oct an just got home from 4,000 mile trip and like i said happy so dar
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11-04-2024, 10:00 AM
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A lot of people like the Hankook tires (I was one of them), but I'll never purchase another one of those. Once I finally got good, high quality tires on all 6 wheels on my rig, it was clearly evident how bad the Hankooks were. Plus 50% fail rate is not good; I lost belts on 3/6 Hankook tires. And they never rode well at all.
Unless they fail me at some point, I'll be sticking with Michelin. The RIBs are pretty pricey in comparison, but I'm okay with dropping a little extra coin on tires if I'm relatively sure I'm getting a good quality chunk of rubber for my money.
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11-04-2024, 11:44 AM
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Hankook tires are made in 6 or 7 countries including China and Germany. That may account for the difference in reviews. Michelin are always among the highest rated tires. After much research I’m putting the Michelin Crossclimate tires on my F350. They are all weather and severe snow rated and a great deal at Costco.
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