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Old 04-20-2014, 07:51 PM   #1
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What do you think the upper limit would be for flat towing with our E-450 Greyhawk 31DS ? With our usual load our weight is 14,000. The rear axle is 500 under max weight.

Would an Explorer or Flex work ?



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Old 04-20-2014, 08:28 PM   #2
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What is the GCVW for your unit? Subtract 14,000 and that will give you the weight you can tow provided the receiver is also rated for at least the difference.

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Old 04-20-2014, 08:52 PM   #3
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I weigh-in right around 14k as well. We tow a 2013 Explorer. It weighs right around 4500lbs. I forget the exact weight. As far as acceleration, braking, and mileage, you really can't tell it's there. Handling was another story. Need to try an alignment and see if that helps. You won't be unhappy with how the Explorer tows.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:14 PM   #4
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Max towing for most Greyhawks is 5,000lbs

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Old 04-23-2014, 01:10 AM   #5
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The short version is "it depends". Ford increased the E-450 tow rating to 22,000# to allow towing of up to 7,500#. However Jayco like all other E-450 manufacturers use up to a 5,000# / 500# hitch (some only put 3,500# / 350# hitches!) This can be resolved by adding a "sub-frame beef up" to your Greyhawk. Many hitch and tow shops can do this work for a reasonable price typically about $1200. They replace the hitch with a 7,500# hitch and install additional supports back to the Ford factory frame following Ford factory recommendations. My Greyhawk is labeled for a max GCWR of 22,000# so I can tow up to 7,500#. I wouldn't recommend towing a car hauler with a 750# tongue weight because it is so far back from the rear wheels even with a weight distributing hitch it would be hard to handle. I have seen people towing a full size F350 crew cab behind an unmodified Class C E450 but I would not. With the sub-frame beef up you are good to go.
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:24 PM   #6
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Be sure the Flex can be flat towed if that is the way you decide to go. I have never seen one towed behind a motorhome.

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