Country Fill problem. no suction

[201926y]

I have a 2019 Jayco Model 26Y.
I am trying to sanitize my fresh water tank and am not getting any suction from the fill intake on the camper.
I have the Utility Center valves set to 1 and 4 for Country Fill and Sanitize System.
All 3 low point drains are closed.
I turn pump on and not able to siphon chlorine solution into the water tank.
What am I doing wrong?
201926Y

[Grumpy]

Flip the cone screen where the hose connects so it pushes the check valve open. That spring is just a little too strong for the pump to overcome at times. Just don't forget to flip it back.

[RVermont]

Grumpy is right on flip the screen.
If you still have trouble keep your unit set up for suction and hook up the water hose. Turn on the water and then turn the pump on for a few seconds until you feel the water is pumping. Turn the pump off, shut off the water and remove the hose and retry the suction step.. Some times if pumps are allowed to dry they need some solution to lubricate flap seals. Once it has water in it is should be able to pull the solution out of the bottle.

[gprapim]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Flip the cone screen where the hose connects so it pushes the check valve open. That spring is just a little too strong for the pump to overcome at times. Just don't forget to flip it back.

What happens if you don't flip it back? I never have flipped it back and don't notice anything abnormal happening. Please let me know. Thanks.

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by gprapim

What happens if you don't flip it back? I never have flipped it back and don't notice anything abnormal happening. Please let me know. Thanks.

If you use the pump and the water tank it could pump out there. Doesn't always happen depending on which valve system your rig has.

[gprapim]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

If you use the pump and the water tank it could pump out there. Doesn't always happen depending on which valve system your rig has.

Thank you for the answer. I always keep mine capped off at that point where the hose connection is and have never had a problem. I uncap it to fill the tank from either a hose bib or when I country fill.

[201926y]

So it appears as though the problem may be more complex than not having suction in Country Fill mode.
I tried to fill the empty tank with a pressurized hose and the control panel set to City Fill Tank.
The tank would not fill.
I disconnected the fill hose, took out the cone shaped screen and pushed on the check valve.
About 1/2 cup of water bused-out under high pressure.
It seems like there is a blockage in the line somewhere not too far away from the check valve.
The system worked fine last fall. Camper has been in a heated garage all winter and never got below 40 degrees.
This has me really puzzled!
Ideas anyone?

[RVermont]

Do you have a inline filter? Mine has stop valves in front of it and if you take the filter out you close them. Is one of them closed?

[RetiredOne]

Originally Posted by 201926y

I have the Utility Center valves set to 1 and 4 for Country Fill and Sanitize System.
All 3 low point drains are closed.
I turn pump on and not able to siphon chlorine solution into the water tank.
What am I doing wrong?

Does your rig operate correctly when you turn the valves in other positions? Like when you go 2 and 6, do the fixtures work inside on city pressure? How about on 3 and 5, does the pump send the water from the tank to the fixtures?

Trying to determine if there's a problem with the valve system.....

[Cavie]

Somebody please explain the "Country Fill" to me. Been doing this 5 years and never heard the term. I do know about "City Water". Are you trying to fill the fresh water tank? No pump is used to do that.

[norty1]

Originally Posted by Cavie

Somebody please explain the "Country Fill" to me. Been doing this 5 years and never heard the term. I do know about "City Water". Are you trying to fill the fresh water tank? No pump is used to do that.

It is on most newer rigs less than 10-15 years old with a utility panel. No more gravity fill tanks. Country fill is the correct term, I just don't know where that came from unless it was from a ditch at one time. LOL

My wife still cannot correctly use the term Normal as meaning using the pump to furnish water from the fresh water tank.

[Gord60]

Country fill is used to fill the fresh water tank from a jug into the fresh water tank using the pump.

[Cavie]

Originally Posted by 201926y

I have a 2019 Jayco Model 26Y.
I am trying to sanitize my fresh water tank and am not getting any suction from the fill intake on the camper.
I have the Utility Center valves set to 1 and 4 for Country Fill and Sanitize System.
All 3 low point drains are closed.
I turn pump on and not able to siphon chlorine solution into the water tank.
What am I doing wrong?
201926Y

you do not have 3 low point drains. You have 2 low point drains for the water piping. Hot and cold, You have a drain for the FW tank.

Are you trying to use the 2' antifreeze freeze fill hose? That hose is used to put antifreeze into the water piping for winterization. Filling the FW tank Takes a CITY WATER hook up. No pump.

You do not use a pump to siphon anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIuO1GcqoQQ

[Gord60]

Hold your jug of sanitizer abut waist high, turn on the pump and crack open a low point drain and the pump will prime and pump your sanitizer. I have to occasionally open and close a drain valve to get the pump primed.

[Gord60]

Originally Posted by Cavie

you do not have 3 low point drains. You have 2 low point drains for the water piping. Hot and cold, You have a drain for the FW tank.

Are you trying to use the 2' antifreeze freeze fill hose? That hose is used to put antifreeze into the water piping for winterization. Filling the FW tank Takes a CITY WATER hook up. No pump.

You do not use a pump to siphon anything.

On this set-up you use the short hose to siphon water into the FW Tk (Country Fill), and to siphon antifreeze into the FW System and also to siphon Sanitizer into the FW Tk for sanitizing..

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by Cavie

. Filling the FW tank Takes a CITY WATER hook up. No pump.

Shows how little you know about JAYCO units. If you are boondocking or in a park without a city water connection you can fill your tank from a jug or container using the pump. Been that way since I bought my 2001... That is why it is called COUNTRY FILL. No city water available.

[pward]

The overflow line for the FW tank also has to be open to allow the tank to vent while its being filled.

[Cavie]

Originally Posted by norty1

It is on most newer rigs less than 10-15 years old with a utility panel. No more gravity fill tanks. Country fill is the correct term, I just don't know where that came from unless it was from a ditch at one time. LOL

My wife still cannot correctly use the term Normal as meaning using the pump to furnish water from the fresh water tank.

so, how do you know when you have a 1/4 cup bleach to 15 gal. ratio?
why did they have to complicate something so easy?

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by Cavie

so, how do you know when you have a 1/4 cup bleach to 15 gal. ratio?

30 gal tank 1/2 cup bleach in the first jug and then fill the tank with plain water
45 gal tank 3/4 cup bleach in the first jug and then fill the tank with plain water

Simple math.

[Cavie]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

30 gal tank 1/2 cup bleach in the first jug and then fill the tank with plain water
45 gal tank 3/4 cup bleach in the first jug and then fill the tank with plain water

Simple math.

Yea i can do the math. But why use the pump when you can fill it from a hose??? What is the point? you gonna throw a hose in a ditch fill of water?