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Old 10-29-2015, 04:22 PM   #1
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Need some electrical help. After checking several things in our 20125 Seneca FK noticed our Fireplace was not working. Unplugged the fireplace and plugged into another outlet and fireplace worked fine. Also noticed that the GFCI receptacle in the bathroom was not working and would not reset. Also noticed the other GFCI protected receptacles were not working as well as two non GFCI protected outlets in the bedroom. Assumed all on same circuit so checked breakers first and did not solve the problem. Pulled the bathroom GFCI out of the box and checked for incoming voltage and there is none. Can not find any other breakers. Nothing marked fireplace. Anybody got any ideas? A little hard to believe that they would wire all those receptacles and the fireplace which has a heater in it on the same circuit. Stumped. Thanks.
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Old 10-29-2015, 04:31 PM   #2
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We had a similar situation earlier this year and finally tracked it down to a loose wire in a junction box. Might be worth checking them, but be aware that they can be in awkward locations.
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Old 10-29-2015, 05:05 PM   #3
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There is definitely a separate breaker for the FP since it has a 1500 watt heater.
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Old 10-29-2015, 05:32 PM   #4
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Thanks for the replies. I am going to try to trace down the location of the breaker for the fireplace. Do not believe it is in the main or sub panels. All breakers marked. If the problem is truly in a junction box somewhere .......Jayco will be fixing it. Thanks again.
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This doesn't sound like what you have but just in case ...

In my unit there is a toggle switch labelled water heater/ fireplace. I presume that allows only one or the other (so I don't overload the AC input side).
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Old 10-29-2015, 08:31 PM   #6
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I am pretty sure mine is plugged into an outlet behind the FP. I'll check it tomorrow.
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Old 10-30-2015, 06:59 PM   #7
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Are you able to get an electrical schematic(s) for your circuits from Jayco?

I looked at an online copy of the 2014 manual and there were not schematics in there.

See this thread by dalenoel "Jayco Schematics and Drawings"

If problem getting them while under warranty, you should be able to get them from your dealer, I'm just guessing.

When I buy my Seneca, since I'm also a Certified RV Service Technician, that will be a negotiating point with the dealership...that it comes with a full set of schematics.
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Update on the electrical issues on my 2015 Seneca FK Fireplace. After further tracing electrical circuits I found that we have no power to half of the circuit breaker box. We had a surge protector installed by the dealer when we purchased the coach. They mounted it under the bedroom closet behind the breaker box. When they routed the wiring they left it next to the drawer under the closet and when we used the drawer it rubbed a hole in the insulation on the wire. Needless to say we returned the coach to have this changed. Well, surge protectors have four wires coming into the box and four coming out going to the breaker box. The wires are a ground wire, a neutral white wire, a red hot wire and a black hot wire. The red hot wire feeds one half of the breakers and the black feeds the other half of the breakers. The red wire has voltage all the way to the main breaker. The black hot wire has no voltage coming into the breaker box. This leaves half the circuits dead. All the GFCI receptacles and the fireplace are on this half of the breaker box. Since I can barely see the surge protector let alone reach it, it's headed back to the dealer to see if they can get it right on the third try. Thanks for all your input.
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Thanks for the update.
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Old 11-04-2015, 06:56 PM   #10
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Woodcruiser,

Does the surge protector have a digital panel on it to provide you with information? If you can barely see it, how can you read it?

Sorry to say, this is a common problem with technicians that are not participants in the hobby, whether it is model trains, boats or rv's. If they don't have a vested interest, they just get the job done and move to the next.

Sad, but just the facts. Doesn't mean the techs do a bad job, it just means they are really not interested in the results. Takes a very diligent owner or a very good supervisor to get the proper results when things are worked on.
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