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Old 03-18-2015, 07:17 PM   #11
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Have to agree with all the posted complaints. Our first trip out find the same problems. Our first trip (this is our third MH, the first one being a small Jayco, second was a 30' Winnebago Class A) determined that the tankless water heater was unusable. We replaced it the next week with a standard DSI propane/electric water heater. Also noted the complete lack of outlets. We taped up the bedroom TV off light after the first night. Agree with the comments about driveability. Indeed it drives like a large SUV and doesn't bang along like our class A did (drove like a bread truck). This is one the wife will be able to drive also. Keypad door entry on ours works great and I really like being able to go to the MH and get in without keys. We got lucky I guess. Having only a single small battery is inadequate except for the shortest layovers. Fit and finish wasn't horrible but there was a lot of extra caulk smeared here and there that I had to clean up. As for the pantry and slide out shelves, that was one the first things the wife went out and found. Found a few gaps in some of the caulking that needed to be touched up. Nothing horrible, but if you aren't aware of the problems that can come with an RV, you could end up with some severe leak problems down the road. Replaced the bath fan (noisy, non-adjustable, and inadequate) with a Maxxair adjustable fan. Overall, I'm very pleased with the rig. I've almost got it to the place where we like it. Just have to finish washing and waxing and it'll be good for the year. Next project will probable be a porcelain toilet.
One thing that always concerned me with these long Class Cs was the CCC. Stopped by a weigh station to see how much weight allowance I had left after a complete load out. With the wife and I in the rig and loaded with about 15 gallons of water, I still had about 900 pounds to go to reach max. Front left was almost maxed out so I'd have to be a bit careful there. Right rear still had 350 pounds to go to reach max. Put the kids and grandkids in the rig and I'll probably be a bit overweight here and there, but nothing to lose any sleep over.
Any trouble replacing/fitting the water heater?
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Old 03-18-2015, 07:25 PM   #12
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I'm not up to that big of a job so I farmed it out. The best replacement was a SW6DE 6 gal Suburban gas/electric as it fit the best. I personally prefer the Atwood water heaters as they don't require an anode rod, but this was best choice for the fit. Took them 4 hours as I also wanted an internal gas/electric switch hanging on the wall so I'm glad I didn't do it. I used the power source feeding the inverter as that's something I don't plan on using much. The inverter was on a dedicated circuit so if I really did need it some day, I could make sure the water heater was off.
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Old 03-18-2015, 07:40 PM   #13
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Thanks for the info. I'm not that great of a handy man, so, I'll also farm out. Did your dealer do the install?

I was able to get the keyless entry working today, although it won't accept my new code. Works fine with the factory-installed code; however.

Spent four hours this afternoon repairing the LR cargo bay door latches which would not open. Wound up crawling under the bed to unscrew the backs of the latches, then filed down the striker plates which were mounted too high. The ole arthritic shoulders are talking to me this evening...

Certainly lots of room for improvement in Jayco's QC function (if they have one).
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Old 03-18-2015, 08:25 PM   #14
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I didn't use my dealer because there were some things said during the PDI that made me skeptical about employing them. I did, however, include them in the request for a bid of the changeout. I never heard from them so it made my choice very easy. There's a repair shop about 40 miles away that I've used in the past that did excellent work (not cheap) so I hired them instead. The end result was $1200 which I thought was way outta line. I priced the water heater on-line at $322 and they charged me $609. Had it to do over, I'd bring the water heater to them and to heck with any warranty. Their biggest problem was that they overcharged me for other parts too. So it goes. At least I can take a shower now without going from freezing to scalding. And I can use the parks energy (electric) instead of my own energy if I'm hooked up. And I believe it to be more reliable because if the electric fails I can use propane and vice versa.
Instructions for changing the door code were behind the battery cover plate on mine. Don't remember them off the top of my head but I'll go look for you if you don't have those instructions.
All in all, I feel like I got a lot bang for the buck on this Jayco so I'm not really sore about the water heater not working right. They do have some quality control issues but nothing that's a show stopper.
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Old 03-18-2015, 08:28 PM   #15
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It is interesting the things stated above.My wife and I have put a deposit on a 2015 29mv and during our initial walk around I noticed the excess caulk film around every compartment door. Can I asked what you used to remove it? I was thinking of a wax and grease remover just prior to rewaxing it. We will hopefully sign the final paperwork Friday. All in all we felt it was a nice unit for the money and we look forward to many years of use. This is a great forum and it's good to see the exchange of ideas and information.
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It is interesting the things stated above.My wife and I have put a deposit on a 2015 29mv and during our initial walk around I noticed the excess caulk film around every compartment door. Can I asked what you used to remove it? I was thinking of a wax and grease remover just prior to rewaxing it. We will hopefully sign the final paperwork Friday. All in all we felt it was a nice unit for the money and we look forward to many years of use. This is a great forum and it's good to see the exchange of ideas and information.
Nice to have another 29MV owner aboard.

Forums like this one remind us we're not in it by ourselves. When all is said and done; the minor irritations are just part of the learning process. RVing is a unique bond and we're blessed to be able to comfortably travel the country and take in sights in a way that many others dream of.

Have fun and keep us posted on your experiences.
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Well said Scratch! We have it soooo good here in this country!

Mineral spirits will remove excess caulk quite nicely.
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Ditto...from what Scratch said

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Old 03-19-2015, 02:17 PM   #19
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I'm excited to try out our tankless water heater next week. I've seen good and bad things on it, but I can't imagine yanking it out and putting in a 6gal. I'm told that the one on my unit is a "second generation" and it's supposed to be much better than gen1. We will see.
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The generation 6 tank-less water is supposed to be great! Of course, we're only on generation 2...

Of the three folks we know that have them, two have replaced them with standard tank models, and the third one will do so as soon as they can afford it. There is a great deal of discussion about it at the campgrounds... the majorly of the folks seem to dislike them intensely.

The reasons seem to be:

* They have a high failure rate.
* They go from freezing folks to scalding them.
* They are very effected by changes in the pressure and temperature of the water coming into the system.
* Most folk who pay for electric at campgrounds like to keep the water heaters on electric, rather than use their own propane.
* A lot of water is wasted trying to get the thing to get to and maintain a comfortable temperature.

One of our friends was scalded when the water temperature went up by itself.

All in all, it just doesn't appear that the technology is there yet for the RV tank-less water heaters.

Just my opinion.
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