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Old 03-16-2015, 06:22 PM   #1
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First Impressions 2015 29MV

We picked up our new Greyhawk last Thursday and following an evening in the dealer's RV park, brought it home and parked it on the pad.

Using a scale of 1 (poor) to 10 (almost perfect), the following are my first impressions after spending a few days with the coach. Although this is our first class c rig, we've owned two class A motorhomes, two travel trailers, a fifth wheel and a pop up over the years since we started camping 35 years ago. We purchased the Greyhawk after deciding that our class A motorhome was bigger than what we actually need. We're also seeking a more comfortable, nimble ride...

Warranty: 10

We've never owned a rig with a standard two-year warranty. This was one of the main reasons we selected Jayco.

Design/Engineering: 5

The 29MV layout closely mirrors our recent class A which fits us to a 'T'. Lots of bedroom storage cabinets & drawers. The master bed lifts up to expose the left rear basement storage cubicle. Not sure why they didn't put flooring under the bed. Kinda strange.

Pull-out kitchen island: Awesome The additional counter top space is a very nice bonus. Cabinets and counter tops are attractive; no loose or mis-aligned drawers/doors. We miss the pull out pantry shelves.

The only electrical outlet in the living area (not counting kitchen) is located on a wall where it is of very limited use. This rig has the fewest outlets of any rig we've owned.

No cup holders or shelf space near the couch. Guess you put your drink/snacks on the floor or use a folding table? You can always move to the dinette, of course, but this should be a no-brainer for a design team. Again, our only rig without this comfort feature.

A small shelf/nightstand is located on each side of the master bed. That's nice...

Storage is what you'd expect on a class C. We're downsizing and therefore adjusting.

Both TVs are oddly placed. The one in the coach, located in the overcab loft, can be horizontally (but not vertically) moved into position with a button. The TV in the MB can be viewed sitting up in bed, but can't be adjusted to a position where it can be viewed laying down. The picture is very shadowy. I'll find an adjustable bracket to correct this issue myself. Nice storage area behind the BR TV.

The tankless HW system is a nice idea, but it is not well designed/engineered. The technician stated this system is the number one customer complaint.

Interior & exterior LED lighting: Great!!!

Audio/Video: Runs off the truck radio system. Haven't figured out how to balance the speakers yet. The Nav/GPS/Bluetooth system is a very nice addition.

Driveability: 10

The Ford Triton V10 has lots of spunk/torque and the rig handles similar to a large SUV. Outstanding suspension. Best driving rig we've ever owned.

Jayco Craftsmanship: 5

I expected better: Almost all exterior storage bay latches need adjusting. Very few lights in the exterior storage areas. Just one marine battery carries the load for the coach! A battery operated keycode entry module on the entry door doesn't work. No instructions come with it. The PDI technician says he has yet to see one that works. Really?

In summary: The minor issues will eventually be resolved. We've owned enough rigs to know they all have issues and it is a matter of patience; regardless of the brand. We're glad we made the switch. It is a pleasure to drive, park and set up. I'll update after our Maiden voyage later this month...
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:36 AM   #2
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Damn Scratch, you sound like me ! Exact same evaluation and fixes on my 29MV.... LOL.

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Old 03-17-2015, 06:03 AM   #3
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Great write up. No one knows how to use the keypad door lock? I was really hoping to use that feature. Agree on storage doors, lights, etc. Thanks for sharing.
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Have either of you fellas figured out how to adjust the speakers? They're blasting outside the coach when the radio is on inside and I can't find a way to adjust separation/balance.

When asked, the technician said "I'm not a radio mechanic"

Looking forward to taking the rig on the road next week. I need to get a rear rock guard as we'll be pulling our trike on an open air Kendon trailer. I envision kicking up a rock into the radiator. NOOOOO!
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On our 31 DS the outside/inside speaker switch is down beside the battery shut off and electric awning switches just to the left side as you come in the entrance door.
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Hey Scratch, on my 29mv the speaker switch is to your left wall near the steps as you come in. As for the electronic lock, it runs on 4 AA batteries. I downloaded the manual at Bauer Products - Bauer EM Manual or I can scan and send it to you. It unscrews from the back of the lock to install the batteries.

Hey, do you have a "blue light" in the MB TV when it's off? That thing bugs the heck out of me, I had to put tape on it so I could sleep!
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Old 03-17-2015, 03:05 PM   #7
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Thanks fellas. Found that pesky speaker switch right there in plain sight!!!!

I loaded batteries in the key code thingie, but to no avail. Can't get it to do anything!

Yep on that blue light. Seems backwards eh?

Rock guard will be installed on Friday so hopefully no rocks in the radiator when we pull out on Monday...
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Though my Greyhawk is an FS, I can agree on roughly the same positives/negatives. A few things that bother me....
1) I wish they came standard with slide toppers. Level is very important bringing the slides in after a rain. I have soaked up puddles from both slides.
2) Would like to hear from others, but Jayco did a horrendous job of trimming out my interior. All the nail holes are visible on the wood paneling/trim due to an unmatched color putty they used. FIND ANOTHER WAY! I notice them, though some may not as easily.
3) The Clarion nav unit they put in mine is among the biggest piece of garbage I have ever attempted to use. I understand they probably got a good bulk deal on them, but they are junk. Google the model # and see what comes up lol!

All things considered, I found it amazing what you do get for the amount of money spent. An apples to oranges comparison of course, but take my new Ford 6.7 for example. Considering I got a steal on my GH due to a factory ordered color mistake, I only paid 9K more for my GH than my truck! The GH is a home on wheels, with far more systems/options than the truck. How the manufacturers can even turn a profit on these rigs is interesting. I could see if they were getting close to list, but then at that price would you be getting a quality product?

Bottom line is....IMO you do get what you pay for. For what you get, I think Jayco and the other builders do a pretty good job.

We are happy with our GH, and have loved every moment spent in it! Sorry for the long post.....

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Agree... what you get for the money from Jayco is great, and we loved the layout, and the performance of the Ford V10. The 2 year warranty is the best, and the way the folks at the factory service center in Middlebury treated us is beyond great.

However, the quality control checks from the factory are non-existent. It was beyond belief that a unit left the factory in the condition that it was in. Oh well, after 2 trips to the factory, almost everything is done.

Thus the two year warranty... lol
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Have to agree with all the posted complaints. Our first trip out find the same problems. Our first trip (this is our third MH, the first one being a small Jayco, second was a 30' Winnebago Class A) determined that the tankless water heater was unusable. We replaced it the next week with a standard DSI propane/electric water heater. Also noted the complete lack of outlets. We taped up the bedroom TV off light after the first night. Agree with the comments about driveability. Indeed it drives like a large SUV and doesn't bang along like our class A did (drove like a bread truck). This is one the wife will be able to drive also. Keypad door entry on ours works great and I really like being able to go to the MH and get in without keys. We got lucky I guess. Having only a single small battery is inadequate except for the shortest layovers. Fit and finish wasn't horrible but there was a lot of extra caulk smeared here and there that I had to clean up. As for the pantry and slide out shelves, that was one the first things the wife went out and found. Found a few gaps in some of the caulking that needed to be touched up. Nothing horrible, but if you aren't aware of the problems that can come with an RV, you could end up with some severe leak problems down the road. Replaced the bath fan (noisy, non-adjustable, and inadequate) with a Maxxair adjustable fan. Overall, I'm very pleased with the rig. I've almost got it to the place where we like it. Just have to finish washing and waxing and it'll be good for the year. Next project will probable be a porcelain toilet.
One thing that always concerned me with these long Class Cs was the CCC. Stopped by a weigh station to see how much weight allowance I had left after a complete load out. With the wife and I in the rig and loaded with about 15 gallons of water, I still had about 900 pounds to go to reach max. Front left was almost maxed out so I'd have to be a bit careful there. Right rear still had 350 pounds to go to reach max. Put the kids and grandkids in the rig and I'll probably be a bit overweight here and there, but nothing to lose any sleep over.
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