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Old 06-21-2016, 04:22 PM   #1
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Kodiak Chassis Seneca Paint Codes - Topeka Graphics

Ive got 4 touch up bottles of now dry paint from when my 2008 Seneca was painted new at Topeka Graphics. They have the Topeka Paint codes written on them. 353H1, 352C3, 55 and 308F1. I have tried to cross reference these paint codes to have some fresh stuff made up at a local body shop.. but cannot find a cross reference for any of these paint codes.? Anyone know what they cross reference to? Like a PPG or Dupont code, etc.? Thanks.
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The 08 we had was painted with Sherwin Williams auto finishes.
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My '08 Seneca was painted for the factory by Carrera Designs using Sherwin Williams ULTRA 7000 paint. The name used is Seneca Chestnut and the codes are shown in this photo of the brochure included with all the manuals.

We have a Sherwin Williams automotive paint store about 10 miles away and they were able to cross reference and mix small touch up bottles for about $16 each. Let me know if you want the color names and their [SW] codes directly from the bottles I have.
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If you are located near an automotive paint store and can drive your rv to that location, they should be able to "shoot" the finish with a hand held scanner and mix an excellent match. I have gotten into the habit of taking a fuel door with me when I buy paint for a repair job. Good luck, this has worked well for me.
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Update with paint info that others may find helpful with this coach

So our 2008 Seneca is the full paint "Dark Chestnut" option. I dont know which other years this scheme was available but i know it was a popular one on this chassis for at least a few years of production. I got a hold of Topeka Graphics in Topeka Indiana where my 08' was painted and spoke to them about the paint.. At the time they were spraying the coaches with Sikkens brand paint products. These Dark Chestnut seneca's used four Sikkens paint codes 55, 353H1, 352C3 and 308F1. These cross reference / were mixed from the following common mass produced automotive colors, i.e. these are the codes needed to have a body shop make up touch up paint or spray to match what was original.. GM paint code WA228A is the "Light Autumnwood" main cab color, The graphics and body are: Mercedes 474 "Peridot Brown", Toyota 141 "Silver or Silver Haze" and Chrysler QU1 "Dark Chestnut.

Sikkens 55 = General Motors WA228A - Light Autumnwood
Sikkens 353H1 = Mercedes 474 - Peridot Brown
Sikkens 352C3 = Toyota 141 - Silver/Silver Haze
Sikkens 308F1 = Chrysler QU1 - Dark Chestnut Pearl

Hope this helps those with the same full body paint seneca as ours.

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They apparently used 2 different paint manuf as well as facilities. As I stated our 08 was painted with Sherwin Williams paint by CARRERA. The major color was GM since that matched the cab factory paint. Two others were FORD and one was CHRYSLER.

JAYCO has now solved the problem, they bought their own paint facility.
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So our 2008 Seneca is the full paint "Dark Chestnut" option. I dont know which other years this scheme was available but i know it was a popular one on this chassis for at least a few years of production. I got a hold of Topeka Graphics in Topeka Indiana where my 08' was painted and spoke to them about the paint.. At the time they were spraying the coaches with Sikkens brand paint products. These Dark Chestnut seneca's used four Sikkens paint codes 55, 353H1, 352C3 and 308F1. These cross reference / were mixed from the following common mass produced automotive colors, i.e. these are the codes needed to have a body shop make up touch up paint or spray to match what was original.. GM paint code WA228A is the "Light Autumnwood" main cab color, The graphics and body are: Mercedes 474 "Peridot Brown", Toyota 141 "Silver or Silver Haze" and Chrysler QU1 "Dark Chestnut.

Sikkens 55 = General Motors WA228A - Light Autumnwood
Sikkens 353H1 = Mercedes 474 - Peridot Brown
Sikkens 352C3 = Toyota 141 - Silver/Silver Haze
Sikkens 308F1 = Chrysler QU1 - Dark Chestnut Pearl

Hope this helps those with the same full body paint seneca as ours.

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Interesting. My '08 Dark Chestnut painted by Carrera Designs for Jayco uses these color names;
Light Autumnwood-- base color
Dark Chestnut Metallic- main color stripe
Black Metallic- secondary color stripe
Pewter- tertiary color stripe

I've used Duplicolor Universal Black for that stripe, screws, awning covers, ladder, etc.
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Interesting. My '08 Dark Chestnut painted by Carrera Designs for Jayco uses these color names;
Light Autumnwood-- base color
Dark Chestnut Metallic- main color stripe
Black Metallic- secondary color stripe
Pewter- tertiary color stripe

I've used Duplicolor Universal Black for that stripe, screws, awning covers, ladder, etc.
good to know! I wonder if they are actually the same colors (carrera painted and Topeka painted) and they just call the colors something a little different or if they are different colors.. thx.
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Its interesting to look at them side by side.. From these pics they are the same color i believe unless there is some very slight differences.. mine was pretty dusty in this pic too. Obviously the factory Light Autumnwood would have to be the same.. I believe the only difference in colors I see in the pics comes from the lighting differences.. Thanks for sharing the pic!

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Its interesting to look at them side by side.. From these pics they are the same color i believe unless there is some very slight differences.. mine was pretty dusty in this pic too. Obviously the factory Light Autumnwood would have to be the same.. I believe the only difference in colors I see in the pics comes from the lighting differences.. Thanks for sharing the pic!

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Hmm.. I just noticed the mirrors are different.. I wonder if that was a mid year thing or a difference in the way the chassis' were ordered? I know mine vibrate violently at fwy speeds.. do the tall ones do the same?
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