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Old 10-19-2018, 07:13 AM   #1
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Lengthening a 37FS

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I've seen motor homes with custom made motorcycle lifts and any number of different items on the back. To me nothing is impossible. Its just time, money, knowledge and compromise.

Our Seneca 37FS currently tows a Chevy Silverado pickup with a camper shell on a 6.5 foot, bed crew cab. This is our basement, storage room, box trailer, plus transportation when we are set up away from home. Between the pickup and Seneca, we have 2 bicycles on a rack that is on a double, vertical hitch for the tow bar. The bike rack is above the Blue Ox Tow Bar. 60,000 miles on this rig, on all terrain and it works well.

So as we get older, the bikes are being used less. But, we are finding we could use a golf cart, scooters, ATV or UTV to get around at our Summer and Winter camping areas. Thinking about how to carry it and looking at this area where the bikes are stored. Thinking of a steel platform, welded to the frame and above the tow hitch, but with a socket to the hitch and extending
about 60 inches out back and 8 feet wide, making it 3 inches less than the Seneca on each side. Weight capacity would be about 1000 lbs. Load from the passenger side with ramps. Our total length, towing going down the road, would be around 70 feet, instead of just less than 65 feet.

Question - how would this impact the air ride on the Seneca? Would bigger air bags on suspension be needed?

Okay guys, ask questions, give opinions, tell me what laws I'll be breaking and every other reason I can't or shouldn't do this. Always fun to see how people react to other people's ideas and lifestyles. Thank you in advance for any thoughts on this and taking the time to look at it.
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Old 10-19-2018, 07:51 AM   #2
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Your front axle would be too light.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:22 AM   #3
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I would be concerned about dragging it on the ground going over terrain like into and out of parking areas.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:46 AM   #4
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You could put a lift on the back, there are several companies that make them.

I am considering adding a Hydralift to my Seneca next year to carry my Honda ST1300 while still towing a toad for when the weather isn't suitable for motorcycle riding. Hydralifts have been installed on both Kodiak and Freightliner Senecas with no adverse handling effects according to Hydralift. On the Freightliners with air bags the leveling system will automatically restore the ride height to normal. The Hydralift incorporates a receiver hitch into the system that will allow flat towing, it is just extended further back than our hitches are now.

Hydralift offers motorcycle rails and platforms for their lifts. And the lift itself can be removed relatively easily when necessary, if configured that way.

https://hydralift-usa.com/
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Old 10-19-2018, 03:14 PM   #5
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Just buy an enclosed car hauler, get a smart car and scooters/bikes/atv/etc/etc., and be done with it. Would be safer as well
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Old 10-19-2018, 03:42 PM   #6
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Rick -
I think we know what you are thinking here... UTV, ATV, Scooter, Harley AND a vehicle that can get you 50 miles back to the big city without breaking camp!

The problem we have is that we are always changing / swapping /adding what toys we are taking on each trip. Sometimes we are hauling a UTV and two ATV's and two Canoes to the lake... Next trip is the FJCruiser and the canoe to Florida. Sometimes we just take a long weekend to the Casino and the Seneca goes solo!

We finally settled on a universal solution that also doubles as our utility trailer when things are too big for the bed of a pickup.

Granted, our Toyota does not weigh as much as your Silverado, but I would guess less than 1,200# difference since we have extra Skid and Recovery gear onboard. But we take the Toyota exploring into places you would never consider taking your Silverado into.

If you think about a 26' trailer, that give you the flexibilty to haul what you want and you wont be overlength or overweight unless you are taking everything with you at once.

For us, With full tanks of fuel and water in the Seneca, the trailer with the Canoe, FjCruiser, tools and a full 35-gal spare water tank - we are right at our GCWR rating of 33k.

The pictures show an evolution of our current trailer setup, back to the previous ones
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Thank you for the responses.

RobR, what do you think that motorcycle in the picture weighs?

SloPoke, yeah the idea of a flatbed has entered my thoughts. The Son thinks that's a great idea, because he could use the flatbed, when we were storing it at his house.

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Rear overhang

I would think the rear overhang with a platform large enough for an atv would run the risk of group contact; I have almost got myself in trouble with the gen exhaust pipe.
I would like to do small cross over towing PWC and the open trailer is going to probably be best option. Unfortunately, enclosed trailers get heavy fast.
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Look for a aluminum trailer as they are a lot lighter than the steel ones, easier to move around when hooking up. I have an aluminum motorcycle trailer that I can move around, actually drag it around from behind the shed up to the driveway (50 yds) by jack handle.
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Thank you for the responses.

RobR, what do you think that motorcycle in the picture weighs?

SloPoke, yeah the idea of a flatbed has entered my thoughts. The Son thinks that's a great idea, because he could use the flatbed, when we were storing it at his house.

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I am guessing around 800 lbs.
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