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Old 03-17-2014, 12:26 PM   #1
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Question for precept owners

We're curious if anyone who owns a Precept 31UL has an opinion about the lack of opening windows (of any real size and provided ventilation)? I know with the frameless glass they have had to revise how windows function and all, but even the couch window is split in half instead of being full-sized to allow more air-flow - and oddly enough it's an emergency exit to boot. I can't see any reason for it to have been split. In any event though it seems a sacrifice was made, not so much in costs, as in esthetics. And in doing so you're pretty much left with either the A/C all the time, or leaving the door open and relying on the driver/pass windows for any real air-flow.

So I'd be interested in hearing from any owners as to what their real-travel experience has been with the Precept window configuration? Thanks much.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:09 AM   #2
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I visited a dealer yesterday and the salesman's response to this same question was related to keeping rain out, aesthetics, and how you are likely to be using shore power to keep the unit cool at night if needed.

I'm not sure this meets our needs as we like the idea of having the outdoor cool air circulating in the MH.

I'm hoping that someone who owns a Precipt UL31 might respond to your original question.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:39 AM   #3
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I think you will find that is the case with all frameless windows, which is supposed to be the "in" thing.

They use the similar type on both the SENECA and even the ENTEGRA class "A". As was metioned by McGarrett50 alot has to do with being able to open the windows and not worry about rain getting in.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:12 PM   #4
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I'm more of the mindset of McGarrett50 in that if I wanted to sit locked inside with the A/C on all the time I would just stay at home (Phoenix - so you get the drift). We prefer some fresh air when we manage to get out from the 110 degree days so I wanted lots of windows that opened. And I like a whole lot of light and "letting the outdoors come inside". But that's just IMO. (The quantity of windows on the larger Forest River FR3 is great but the quality of their build really visibly sucks. That, and the floor plan of the 31UL is dead-on perfect for us.)

Hey McGarrett50, I already contacted Jayco and learned there is nothing in the walls to preclude one from having more windows cut in. I haven't taken the plunge yet on the 31UL but intend to soon and when I do I plan to use the same glass as elsewhere in the rig (for esthetic reasons only as I'd prefer "real" opening windows instead) to add a wide window behind the cooktop, and small ones on both ends of the two living/dining slide-outs (much like in the bedroom) With those I feel it'll pretty much round things out nicely for us.
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If there was a screen on the rear bedroom exit window with a different type of latch the airflow in the coach would be greatly improved. Does not seem to be an option and the parts folks at Jayco can't determine if the is a screen some where that might fit...
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I agree. When I get my Precept 31UL next season I plan to retrofit that rear bedroom window just like I did on our current Thor TT. It was the same escape window configuration and I wanted to get some cross ventilation over the bed to the window on the opposite side. Plus I liked the idea of being able to have such a large window open even in the rain since it's a awning window (escape hatch).

So I simply got some 1/4 angle aluminum and cut slits so I could bend it (my current window had radius corners) to the same curve. I then used a little 1/4 strip of aluminum and screwed the ends together so I now had a frame that fit tight right in the window frame. I stretched some left-over window sun-shade (regular window screen would do fine, but the sun shade is also dark enough that no one can see into the bedroom) over the angle-aluminum, and then in a flash of Rub Goldberg I used car door-edge molding all around to hold the screen tight in place. Fit and works awesome for 15,000 miles thus far.

Oh!, and I took a piece of wooden dowel, notched it in two places (one end to grab the awning window to pull it back in, and the the other end notched a few inches from the end leaving just enough of a "handle" to sticking into the room to grab onto).

So I open the red latches, push the dowel onto the window frame to open it from the bottom edge, hook it onto the window frame, and you're done. Plenty of air, no one sees inside, no need to get up if it rains, and a simple tug inward pulls the awning back so the red clips grab and lock it. I stash the dowel on top of the valance over the window when closed.

Sorry I don't have a picture to send but if you plan on trying this let me know and I'll post one next time I'm up at the cabin where we store the trailer. In addition to this "hack", I plan to add the 4-5 extra windows to the Precept as well. When I get it that is. :-)
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Although it's not about ventilation / windows, I think it's a bit silly to start a fresh thread for every single question. So I post it here:
We intend to buy a Precept 31UL but wondering around the internet we see that some dealers say: sleeps 5 while others say: sleeps 6.
I think this has to do with the size of the hide-away-bed or the dinette bed. Can any of current 31UL owners share the actual sizes of these beds? I can't find them in any specification. Thanks in advance.

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I would say 2 on the master bed, 2 on the fold-out couch, and depending on their size - either 1 adult or 2 adolescents on the dinette. I think that's where the discrepancy is as a tall adult might need sleep diagonally on the dinette whereas you could get 2 kids sleeping together there too. But the best way for you to know for sure is just go to the Dealer and open the couch and food down the dinettes and both try each out for a while to see for yourselves what it would be like for two people sleeping to sleep in each. Good luck.
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The specs for all the 2015 PRECEPTS are on JAYCO's website and the number will vary depending on the options selected. So depending on what the dealer has in stock and the options the number will vary.
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I would say 2 on the master bed, 2 on the fold-out couch, and depending on their size - either 1 adult or 2 adolescents on the dinette. I think that's where the discrepancy is as a tall adult might need sleep diagonally on the dinette whereas you could get 2 kids sleeping together there too. But the best way for you to know for sure is just go to the Dealer and open the couch and food down the dinettes and both try each out for a while to see for yourselves what it would be like for two people sleeping to sleep in each. Good luck.
Being in Europe that's a bit difficult .

Att Grumpy: I have checked but couldn't find it. Will do so again.
In the meantime: anybody with a precpt on the driveway ...... please?
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