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02-09-2018, 07:33 PM
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Ready, set NOT go
Just drove home (1 and 1/2 hours) from RV place. They put on our toppers and put our stowmaster and brakes on the toad. Here's the problem. My husband hates how it drives. He was just getting a little bit used to it without the toad but now he really hates it. So now we have a brand new 2018 RV and he says he's not driving it. Hope he'll agree to be the passenger.
Any ideas how to lessen the swaying?
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02-09-2018, 08:49 PM
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It could be a number of things. Loaded wrong, tire pressure, front end alignment
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02-09-2018, 09:11 PM
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Yep.
Check the tire pressure cold and ensure they are inflated to the recommended pressure as noted on the door sticker and have the front end alignment checked and set if needed.
Jayco may pay for an alignment at a shop of your choice if you contact them first.
If he still doesn't like the way it drives we have other recommendations.
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02-10-2018, 04:57 AM
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Location: Pleasant Valley
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What kind of Rv do you have? There are quite a few things you can do to make the ride more stable.Just remember these motorhomes are big heavy boxes going down the road,not like driving a pickup truck.
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02-10-2018, 11:08 AM
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Location: Calgary
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Ford ships these E350/E450 Cutaways off the assembly line with +3 to +4 degrees of Caster.
Those settings are OK for city driving BUT you want to have +5 to +6 degrees of Caster
for highway driving, OTHERWISE:
POPULAR MECHANICS MAY 1973:
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If too little caster exists, the car will wander and weave, thus necessitating constant corrections in steering.
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There are at least two ways to increase the effective runtime caster (see Self Aligning Torque)
1. Decrease the tire inflation pressure to the required minimum for load (to increase Pneumatic Trail), and or
2. Increase the caster angle during an alignment (to increase caster trail).
If you find an improvement in reducing the tire pressure you will be amazed what it is to
add +2 degrees of caster. IMO.
The specified range of Caster for the E350/E450 is from +1.5 to +7.0 degrees. As you can see
almost any possible setting is "within spec" for the "tweak the toe and you are good to go"
alignment services.
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02-10-2018, 11:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harvard
Ford ships these E350/E450 Cutaways off the assembly line with +3 to +4 degrees of Caster.
Those settings are OK for city driving BUT you want to have +5 to +6 degrees of Caster
for highway driving, OTHERWISE:
POPULAR MECHANICS MAY 1973:
START QUOTE:
If too little caster exists, the car will wander and weave, thus necessitating constant corrections in steering.
END QUOTE:
There are at least two ways to increase the effective runtime caster (see Self Aligning Torque)
1. Decrease the tire inflation pressure to the required minimum for load (to increase Pneumatic Trail), and or
2. Increase the caster angle during an alignment (to increase caster trail).
If you find an improvement in reducing the tire pressure you will be amazed what it is to
add +2 degrees of caster. IMO.
The specified range of Caster for the E350/E450 is from +1.5 to +7.0 degrees. As you can see
almost any possible setting is "within spec" for the "tweak the toe and you are good to go"
alignment services.
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And have it done at a "good" truck front end shop.
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02-10-2018, 02:05 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Georgetown
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2018 Greyhawk 26Y. Our tire pressure was low. We'll drive it again tomorrow and see if that makes a difference
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02-10-2018, 02:49 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanie
2018 Greyhawk 26Y. Our tire pressure was low. We'll drive it again tomorrow and see if that makes a difference
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Front wheels low tire pressure is better from handling point of view then higher ... go by the actual weight on the tire per the tire manufacturer recommendation and not the pressure posted on the door jamb.
Get a proper wheel alignment with the caster set as high as the Ingalls 594 concentric bushings will allow.
E350/E450 Handling Problems are caused by too little + CASTER
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02-11-2018, 12:44 AM
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I would say dont give up yet. When I first got my Seneca, I had to drive it 12 hours back home for it maiden voyage. I can tell you it was something to get used to for sure. I have driven large trucks before, but this handled totally different. Now that I have had it out a few dozen times, I feel so much more comfortable with it. I would say that I actually like driving it more than my daily vehicle.
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02-11-2018, 05:46 AM
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Location: Denver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RyRoRyan
I would say dont give up yet. When I first got my Seneca, I had to drive it 12 hours back home for it maiden voyage. I can tell you it was something to get used to for sure. I have driven large trucks before, but this handled totally different. Now that I have had it out a few dozen times, I feel so much more comfortable with it. I would say that I actually like driving it more than my daily vehicle.
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I would totally agree. Almost had to pry hands from the wheel after 15hour drive. Now, I would rather drive it than one of the cars.
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2018 Jayco Seneca 37TS
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02-11-2018, 06:12 AM
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Location: Southern Illinois
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Confidence comes from experience and trust in your equipment. All of the above suggestions are important to build that trust and confidence. Take it slow, have good support from a good dealer/shop/mechanic.
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Southern Illinois
2016 Jayco Seneca 37FS
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