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Old 05-11-2016, 08:34 AM   #31
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I've still been on the fence but the more I read about them I think he is most likely correct.
Some users have good luck with the tankless, especially if they camp with full hookups. Those who boondock frequently generally don't like them as well since water conservation techniques tend to cause wide swings in water temperature. The tankless heaters do better when you can afford to just "let the water run".

Another factor to consider is that a tankless heater requires you to always burn (your) propane to make hot water. If you have a combination gas/electric unit you can let campground power heat it for you. So if the available tank-style unit is indeed gas/electric, it gives you the choice to use propane or electricity (or both) to heat your water.
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Old 05-11-2016, 05:43 PM   #32
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Rgolding,

Yes I did check the reset, it was not tripped. Thank you for the suggestion. As it is our first RV I will take anyone's suggestions. But I did read the manual and followed all the trouble shooting recommendations. Nothing worked.
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Old 05-12-2016, 07:22 AM   #33
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I must've gotten lucky but (again NOT boondocking) I've never had a problem getting constant hot water out of mine. I followed the steps in the video on Girard's website, I do not use a low flow showerhead, and I have a Watts pressure regulator (which does not limit the flow).

These units need proper water flow to function properly. If the water is not flowing fast enough, the temperature rise in the tankless system exceeds the cutoff limit and you end up with the whole up/down water temp problem some have.

So long as you have enough flow through the system, and you gradually adjust the temperature knob on the wall to your desired comfort, you'll be fine. Run the shower w/ 1/2 hot on and no cold. If you want a warmer shower, pull back on the hot water a little, if you want a colder shower open the hot water a little more. Counter-intuitive, but it works as designed. Again the faucet knobs in your camper are not temperature regulators; that's what the knob on the wall is for. Your faucet knobs are FLOW regulators; the faster the flow the colder the water.

If your temp is dialed in correctly you really don't need the cold water turned on to regulate the temperature.
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Old 05-12-2016, 04:57 PM   #34
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Rgolding,

Yes I did check the reset, it was not tripped. Thank you for the suggestion. As it is our first RV I will take anyone's suggestions. But I did read the manual and followed all the trouble shooting recommendations. Nothing worked.
We had gotten used to the tankless operation mode and had resolved to just go with it... Until two trips in a row where it would work fine and then randomly fail to ignite. Like yours the secret reset button was not popped. That was when we pressed Jayco to replace it.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:09 PM   #35
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We're picking up our new rv tomorrow from the dealer, a 2012 31FS, and the first thing to check is the hot water heater.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:56 AM   #36
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How hard was it to get Jayco to replace it?
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Heading out on my first boondocking adventure this weekend. Not very optimistic on how the hot water heater is going to perform. Taking and extra 10 gallons of water so the wife can take a shower.
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Another little trivia on the Girard Hot Water Heater, it is a 110 volt appliance. Found that out during a power outage. Verified with dealer the next day. So if no power, need to fire up generator for a hot shower. A lot my "pusuit of happiness" is keeping the bride happy. So far a 44 year project with minimal success.
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:09 PM   #39
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Replacementof Girard Water Heater

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This weekend was the VERY last straw for the "Thank-Less Water Heater". With outside temperature of around 35 degree, the water heater was unable to heat water much higher than slightly cool no matter were any "controls" (flame and shower faucets) were adjusted to.
This water heater has been a pain from day one, even after following all the "instructions" provided by Girard. With less than 3 weeks of warranty left, how do I go about getting Jayco to step up to replacing it??
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Old 05-19-2016, 05:29 PM   #40
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Contact Jayco's Motorized Warranty Division directly. We were working through our dealer who said Jayco finally agreed to change ours, but only after trying it one more trip. The service manager for our dealer listed our frustrations with the unit (which I had documented thoroughly) and asked why we needed to wait. Jayco's rep said that if we thought it to be such a serious problem, why had he not heard directly from us? So he heard from me within the hour and finally agreed to to authorize the work.

With only three weeks left on your warranty, I'd contact Jayco directly and document the call. Good luck.

FWIW, we appreciate Jayco authorizing the swap and are delighted with the Suburban tank model. It's been great.
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